Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 2)

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Moon stuff

Btw, did anyone else found it weird that everyone just stared at the bright moon at the end of duty like hypnotized? They did not move at all or talk just stared at it for a long time...

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Yes, yes I did.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

They do work on mobile lol. I’m always on mobile and i just used them above.

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They don't work on my phone.

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Originally Posted by MrThinker

You have to manually type out [HB] and [/HB ](without the space) to get spoiler tabs to work

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I meant that they won't click for some reason when people add them. I can't click "click to show" when I'm not at my computer.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I meant that they won't click for some reason when people add them. I can't click "click to show" when I'm not at my computer.

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That happens to me as well. I just tab to a different page and click a spoiler on there and it usually fixes itself.

If the other translations made it clear as to who/what they were referring to as the "dreamer"...

...then I now feel about 99.9% certain that Anima is the being responsible for the towers; moreso with it potentially being a nod to the fayths of FFX.

Though now I'm wondering how the thing was created even moreso.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

If the other translations made it clear as to who/what they were referring to as the "dreamer"...

...then I now feel about 99.9% certain that Anima is the being responsible for the towers; moreso with it potentially being a nod to the fayths of FFX.
Though now I'm wondering how the thing was created even moreso.

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I was thinking about this a bit, as well. My darksteel-foil-hat-insane-brain wanted to sprint in the direction of

combining several technological feats we've seen before where the tempered are locked in torpor to maintain a primal's continued manifestation Allagan-style; tower draws in aether, combines with the torpid faith, maintains a spiritual entity, projects tempering through the tower. On the deepest levels of crazy theory: involving left-over Solus clones and/or Anima as the shared dream of a unified Garlemald and/or Dark future.

Also spending time attacking my own position of "I don't understand how we can possibly start anywhere other than 'Fandaniel wants to be Zodiark's BFF' because there have been no flags that he is not tempered as Emet-Selch said."

In the same line as Emet-Selch breathed that absolute faith in Zodiark's is etched into the very souls of his summoners, he talks about how unrelated individuals can be raised to the offices, but that they tend not to be as trustworthy.

That's the real way to attack my starting point, I think: Fandaniel has no first-hand memories of the Final Days not just because he's a sundered risen with an archive of the Originals' memories instead of his own, but because he's not part of the real Fandaniel at all.

I'm still starting on "Why wouldn't Fandaniel be trying to be Zodiark's BFF?" for now. That domino must be toppled for me to let the other paranoias I have flow, lol.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

If the other translations made it clear as to who/what they were referring to as the "dreamer"...

...then I now feel about 99.9% certain that Anima is the being responsible for the towers; moreso with it potentially being a nod to the fayths of FFX.

Though now I'm wondering how the thing was created even moreso.

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I think it makes sense as a consequence of his job change, as well, since I doubt he's just going to get some itty bitty Voidsent avatar following him about. This pushed me further in that direction (the mask above him is a fair match to his former helmet)...

https://twitter.com/mizurimns/status...987751942?s=19

The little munchkin is the bottom half of Anima from X... I suspect what that thing (Anima) is, is a soul cage of sorts and that the critter is whatever is devouring the souls.

Wouldn't surprise me if it's what's embedded in the tower... they seem pretty organic, anyhow.

Minor character appearance from Bozja, nothing big at all but I'll spoiler tag it anyways

It's cool to see Oboro and Tsubame from the NIN quests return

Not playing 'till dinner slows me down.

MSQ

So we called together the the spoken and beast tribes to realize Alphinaud's long-sought dream of a "Grand Company of Eorzea!" Yay, sticking it to the Telophori! ... but to make sure this sticks, we're getting info on the Crystal Braves and giving advice to the sylphs, only to find out that Alphinaud and Alisae's pops Fourchenault has been sent as Sharlayan's envoy to Gridania. So we go to meet him... and after exchanging pleasantries he turns out to be a total douche, expectedly telling us in no uncertain terms Sharlayan will not intervene and then disowning his kids for speaking out of turn.

Harsh, bro.

That said, as G'raha observes this was a bit theatrical, and there must be some purpose for which Fourchenault came to Eorzea and told us Sharlayan wouldn't intervene. Clearly they know something and just won't tell us because... Sharlayan, but just what that something is nobody knows.

Time for more Telophori fightan, and despite having been paralyzed from the waist down (it seems) Arevald shows up to encourage Alphinaud. So we take the fight to them at Cartenau, stopping no less than 3 Lunar primals and preventing Danny Boy from seizing control of the aetheric leylines for his "gateway to the gods." The day is saved at a cost (like always; this is war), and the Scions are dropped off at the Rising Stones. No entry to Sharlayan till Endwalker launches till Krile can get us entry despite the Forum stymieing her every attempt to do anything. Yep, first location big city, expecting lots of political intrigue there.

So while doing recon the Scions figure out the towers are drawing aether from the land itself to summon. Finally we see a manifestation of who can only be Venat telling us vagueness is coming and it's up to us to stop it. Thanks for that noninformation, Venat.

Meanwhile in the Imperial capital...
Danny Boy reports back to Zenos, who has just finished slaughtering some people with his new Reaper scythe and powers. Danny Boy notes that without the redirected aether from Cartenau "the dreamer" will need to "dream deeper," to which Zenos replies "the dreamer" won't complain. Danny Boy then notes that the "gateway to the gods" (presumably the "remodeled" Imperial palace) is now complete and all they have to do is wait for the aether to enact their plan, after which Zenos gives his closing monologue about how he's going to gorge himself on the darkened moon and ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny and blah blah blah.

Oh, and the moon's turned red-orange. In cutscenes, anyway.

The only observation I can make that might be of some particular worth is "the dreamer." Both Zenos and Danny Boy refer to it in third person, so while it's possible they could be referring to Zenos due to his dreams of the Final Days, I find that somewhat unlikely. Instead, I'd argue this is related to Anima in some way - aeons in X were "dreams of the fayth." Further glyphs factored significantly into Danny Boy's plan at Cartenau; though Spiran script didn't show up here, Spiran glyphs were closely related with the Yevonite faith in X. So my guess would be that they captured or created some fayth-like entity, and are exploiting it for their plans. (Does it house the soul of Zenos' mother? Danny Boy's? Whoooo knows...)

So yeah, kind of disappointing in that we still have no real idea how the towers are supposed to recreate the Final Days. Other than some vague terms being thrown around, everything went pretty according to the book... and now Endwalker's prologue is over with us having very little context in regards to what's really going on.

YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse (Epilogue)

Yeah, supes disappointing. "Konogg's probably hanging out in Eulmore!" So we go visit his shack, only to find out that Anogg somehow came back and the two are now walking the earth. Cue "credits," which really just show the ratio of players who sided with which twin during the quest back in 5.1, and... that's it.

Maybe there's something locked behind NG+? I suppose I can try running that over the weekend, but I'm not expecting anything...

I'll get to Bozja when I get to it.

YoRHa: I haven't played Nier

Seems like lots of people are having a more hopeful interpretation of the ending than I got. Mine was: So Konogg had a psychotic break, and I hope that leaving with his sister into the light wasn't suppose to symbolize him committing suicide. I really like the dwarven twins and while I wasn't expecting a happy ending I wish we had got one that was less of a downer or at least less cryptic.