Reaper speculation thread

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

I cant comment on the other since I havent looked at them but the RDM video absolutely does not show everything it has to offer. Not even close. Hell, just off the top of my head, the RDM jumps into melee range and then only uses a SINGLE melee attack before jumping back out and casting verflare/holy.

By your logic, we can assume that RDM"s melee combo is only a single melee attack. Is that what you think we should be doing for reaper?

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Exactly. In those videos there is tons of cheating from the devs to skip part of the rotation etc. From the RDM we only saw: it dual casts, it has a gap closer, a melee attack, a disengage, and it can insta cast a big spell. It didn't even dual cast a black magic and white magic spell, only Jolt into VerAero

Job looks cool, I think the greenish black colour on the attacks is good and the sound effects are good too. Scythe class for melee dps? Yes please. I just hope they do strong damage, because I'm foreseeing a lot of my groups will be sage, double reaper.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

I cant comment on the other since I havent looked at them but the RDM video absolutely does not show everything it has to offer. Not even close. Hell, just off the top of my head, the RDM jumps into melee range and then only uses a SINGLE melee attack before jumping back out and casting verflare/holy.

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From that video I could tell Red Mage had about 2-3 white magic attack spells, 2-3 dark magic attack spells; that it would alternate between them to build up a gauge to empower its melee attacks; that it had an OGCD jump attack and a OGCD backflip; and 2-3 melee attacks. I could tell that in a fight against a single-target like a boss the class would be alternating between white and dark attacks until a gauge was filled and would then jump in to deliver a couple of powerful melee attacks and then jump back out. The process would then repeat. Wouldn't you know, the class turned out to play almost exactly like that.

Dancer video I could tell the class had about 4, possibly 5, GCD single target attacks; at least one OGCD single-target attack; and two dances, the buttons probably being on a 30-60 second timer, to buff the character and possibly other players. Again, fairly close to the money.

Samurai video I could tell it had 2, possibly 3, GCD melee combos since it showcased 7 different GCD attacks and that it was building a gauge to unleash a potent attack.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

By your logic, we can assume that RDM"s melee combo is only a single melee attack. Is that what you think we should be doing for reaper?

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By your logic we have only seen 1/3 of Reaper's single-target melee abilities, do you think that is accurate?

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Originally Posted by Karl0217

From that video I could tell Red Mage had about 2-3 white magic attack spells, 2-3 dark magic attack spells; that it would alternate between them to build up a gauge to empower its melee attacks; that it had an OGCD jump attack and a OGCD backflip; and 2-3 melee attacks. I could tell that in a fight against a single-target like a boss the class would be alternating between white and dark attacks until a gauge was filled and would then jump in to deliver a couple of powerful melee attacks and then jump back out. The process would then repeat. Wouldn't you know, the class turned out to play almost exactly like that.

Dancer video I could tell the class had about 4, possibly 5, GCD single target attacks; at least one OGCD single-target attack; and two dances, the buttons probably being on a 30-60 second timer, to buff the character and possibly other players. Again, fairly close to the money.

Samurai video I could tell it had 2, possibly 3, GCD melee combos since it showcased 7 different GCD attacks and that it was building a gauge to unleash a potent attack.



By your logic we have only seen 1/3 of Reaper's single-target melee abilities, do you think that is accurate?

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Congratulation man. You are a precog. Sadly we don't all see the future.

You have speculated that Red Mage had blade magic, this was an easy enough guess given the history of the job. If you already know everything about RPR and know you won't like it, why are you here then ?
If you have nothing to add, just read what others have to say.

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

Congratulation man. You are a precog. Sadly we don't all see the future.
If you have nothing to add, just read what others have to say.

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Dude, look at the job action showcase trailer for Shadowbringers. It takes 40 seconds for them to run through all the attack actions, single and AoE, along with any party or self-buffing abilities for one class. Look at the reveal trailer for Reaper, we get about 30 seconds of footage of the class in action showcasing its abilities on a single target. If it takes them about 40 seconds to showcase all of a class's single target attacks, AoE attacks and any buffing abilities and we just got 30 seconds of footage of the Reaper class showcasing single-target attacks what do you think that implies?

That's why the Job Action video is for... the trailer is just to tease and announce the job. Come on man, it's not like it's the first time.

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Originally Posted by Karl0217

Dude, look at the job action showcase trailer for Shadowbringers. It takes 40 seconds for them to run through all the attack actions, single and AoE, along with any party or self-buffing abilities for one class. Look at the reveal trailer for Reaper, we get about 30 seconds of footage of the class in action showcasing its abilities on a single target. If it takes them about 40 seconds to showcase all of a class's single target attacks, AoE attacks and any buffing abilities and we just got 30 seconds of footage of the Reaper class showcasing single-target attacks what do you think that implies?

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One video is designed to say "here are all the new abilities of the class, watch!" and the other is designed to say, "This class exists and will be a thing."

What do you think? Are those two videos going to offer the same amount of content in the same amount of time? Obviously not. They serve completely different purposes. This is a reveal video, not a job actions trailer.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

One video is designed to say "here are all the new abilities of the class, watch!" and the other is designed to say, "This class exists and will be a thing."

What do you think? Are those two videos going to offer the same amount of content in the same amount of time? Obviously not. They serve completely different purposes. This is a reveal video, not a job actions trailer.

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

That's why the Job Action video is for... the trailer is just to tease and announce the job. Come on man, it's not like it's the first time.

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You are not listening. There is a reveal trailer in which we got 30 seconds of combat footage of the class in action on a single target, all showcasing single target attacks and the class's burst phase, and 30 seconds of it posing. It takes about 40 seconds for them to showcase everything the class has to offer in the job action trailer; single target, AoE, buffing. Compare the Dancer reveal trailer and the combat footage in it to the later full on reveal in the job action trailer; 90-95% of its single-target toolkit was shown in the reveal trailer.

If you got 30 seconds of footage showcasing different attacks on a target and it takes 40 seconds to give you the whole picture of what the class is capable of, how much do you think is missing? Give me a percentage, how much do you think is missing and hidden away in that extra ten seconds? 80% of the class's abilities? I think we have seen at least 75% of what this class can do. Give me your percentage.

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Originally Posted by Karl0217

You are not listening. There is a reveal trailer in which we got 30 seconds of combat footage of the class in action on a single target, all showcasing single target attacks and the class's burst phase, and 30 seconds of it posing. It takes about 40 seconds for them to showcase everything the class has to offer in the job action trailer; single target, AoE, buffing. Compare the Dancer reveal trailer and the combat footage in it to the later full on reveal in the job action trailer; 90-95% of its single-target toolkit was shown in the reveal trailer.

If you got 30 seconds of footage showcasing different attacks on a target and it takes 40 seconds to give you the whole picture of what the class is capable of, how much do you think is missing? Give me a percentage, how much do you think is missing and hidden away in that extra ten seconds? 80% of the class's abilities? I think we have seen at least 75% of what this class can do. Give me your percentage.

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You're the one not listening. We don't even KNOW how many abilities jobs will have at level 90.
Yes, the teaser gives the base concept of the job. Which is "X% of what the class can do". Just like you just need to see a dragoon turn on Blood of the dragon, do 1 or 2 weapon skills and use Jump to know what it's all about.

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

You're the one not listening. We don't even KNOW how many abilities jobs will have at level 90.
Yes, the teaser gives the base concept of the job. Which is "X% of what the class can do". Just like you just need to see a dragoon turn on Blood of the dragon, do 1 or 2 weapon skills and use Jump to know what it's all about.

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This karl guy is the same type of person who probably believes this new *melee DPS* is going to have a tank-tier rotation complete with fell cleave spam. Come on. This is a melee DPS, not a tank.