Elemental Wheel, What's the point?

black mages limited to not all elemental spells has nosense.

First, why BLM have to have the same number of spells than a melee skills? that is totally wrong..

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Originally Posted by GinTama

if there is no elemental wheel, there would be no need for elemental spells .... and wtf guys this is final fantasy ....
there has always been elemental affinity on mosters. and who says blm will have no further spells?

removing elemental wheel is like removing crystals ... itsn ot gonna happen and its not gonna be good without, better try to improve it than removing it

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Did yo not read his post ?

He said remove elemental attunement for standard monsters, keep it for elemental creatures such as Bombs, Elementals, Flans and Primals.

Does this not make sense to you ?

After all are any of us as adventurers naturally resistant to one school of magic ? (I'll think you'll find no)

Why is a Marmot strong against earth for example ?

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Did yo not read his post ?

He said remove elemental attunement for standard monsters, keep it for elemental creatures such as Bombs, Elementals, Flans and Primals.

Does this not make sense to you ?

After all are any of us as adventurers naturally resistant to one school of magic ? (I'll think you'll find no)

Why is a Marmot strong against earth for example ?

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I'm expecting some retard answer like cuz it walks on dirt.

Delete Elemental Wheel? No Thanks,
Change it? Yes, Please... Earth > Lightning > Water > Fire > Ice > Wind

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The elemental wheel is pretty messed up right now and should be changed, yes.
Removed? That's a dumb idea.
Monsters are resistant to ONE element, every magicbased class is able to use at least TWO elements though.
So let's say the monster is resistant to earth.
As a CNJ, I can just use wind on it.
As a PUG, I can just use fire on it.
And if it is resistant to fire, it won't be resistant to earth so I can use earth instead.
As a THM, I can just use ice or thunder on it.
Where is the problem?o.O

I don't think there will ever be a situation where a single mob is resistant to Ice, Fire AND Thunder all at once. There may be an encounter where certain mobs are immune/resistant to one at most but never all three.

The elemental wheel is a nice touch, however we have no idea what element most enemies are aligned with. This is why we need the Libra/Scan/Bestiary in the game. So that players may be properly informed and can use that knowledge to play skillfully.

Edit: Also the current element wheel, or set of triangles, is fine. It's just different and not obvious so most people hate it.

Fire > Ice > Wind > Fire
Earth > Thunder > Water > Earth

Pretty simple actually, jut a matter of remembering it.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

As a THM, I can just use ice or thunder on it.
Where is the problem?o.O

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I laughed.

Remove? No, thanks.
Change? Yes, please.

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

black mages limited to not all elemental spells has nosense.

First, why BLM have to have the same number of spells than a melee skills? that is totally wrong..

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It's not nonsense. They've only used fire ice and thunder in nearly every FF game except 11.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Did yo not read his post ?

He said remove elemental attunement for standard monsters, keep it for elemental creatures such as Bombs, Elementals, Flans and Primals.

Does this not make sense to you ?

After all are any of us as adventurers naturally resistant to one school of magic ? (I'll think you'll find no)

Why is a Marmot strong against earth for example ?

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ive read it yes, but seems like you didnt read the rest of the thread.

and why the hell should "normal" monsters have no element?? just coz its not obvious?? use your imagination damn it.
Those are monsters not animals, so of course they can have an element. A Marmot is strong against earth coz they eat dirt ... or what ever ...


and no it does not make sense to me.

we are not naturally resistant, but there was a time where we could put the points where we wanted