SE Please Sell Gil

They do. $25 for 500k on the mogstation.

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Originally Posted by Machi_Machiavelli

They do. $25 for 500k on the mogstation.

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Didnt think it would take 6 pages for someone to point that out...

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Originally Posted by Lunavi

When WoW tokens were implemented in WoW it actually helped its economy, so if you go that route I do not see any harm done as rather than devaluing Gil, there is an extra value to Gil to people who have a lot of it.

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Can you provide evidence of this statement?

The first few things I find are at ends of your statement:
Concern 1
Concern 2
Concern 3

If it truly helped the economy, when I search for something along the lines of this topic, I should at least see some positive or neutral stances (knowing full well there will always be doomsayers and those expressing concerns). Also, it just sounds like WoW's economy is a bit F.U.B.A.R. as is and this just compounded it.

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Speaking about this as someone who has never touched WoW, doesn't care for WoW, doesn't care to devote any real effort to find information regarding anything to WoW nor how hard it is to even attain gold in WoW. It doesn't change how concerning it is for a single 'token' cost as high as 590k gold in the last year of that game using this site. If it was anything like an older game I played with a similar exchange as WoW, 200k-500k is definitely much harder to obtain and promotes throwing real world cash to progress that the concerns I brought up address.

The last thing I'd ever want to see in FFXIV is food or pots going for 100k per 1.

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Originally Posted by grey1234

[*]There is no client side cheat detection.

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The only thing i did see client side cheat detection do on some others mmos plagued with bots i did play, is worsening the legit honests players experience with bugs, false positives with other harmless programs and the game becoming more resource intensive to work correctly. While the bots were still here in full force because they of course dont use a legit client to connect to the game if that means them being banned of it.

Plus most of these client side cheat detection, when coming from a third party, looked kind of fishy. With no explanations at all when you were searching on the net what is was really doing on your pc. It wouldn't even surprise me if they were some kind of spyware, especially when connecting to some random country where the bots are very well known to come from. When you think of it it can be a very good scheme : plague a game with bots, then approach this game company telling that your program will fight against them, while in fact it wont and you just want to make more money by collecting all the players private datas XD

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Originally Posted by Kleeya

Plus most of these client side cheat detection, when coming from a third party, looked kind of fishy. With no explanations at all when you were searching on the net what is was really doing on your pc. It wouldn't even surprise me if they were some kind of spyware, especially when connecting to some random country where the bots are very well known to come from. When you think of it it can be a very good scheme : plague a game with bots, then approach this game company telling that your program will fight against them, while in fact it wont and you just want to make more money by collecting all the players private datas XD

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There are many "anti-cheat" protections on MMOs that have known rootkits and keyloggers in them. Anything that installs invasive things on your hardware should be avoided.

That is another point though; even with protections, hackers will eventually break it down and get functioning bots and trainers in the game.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The problem with gw2 was they also modified drop rates to encourage gem buying to get mats for things because they had such an absurdly low drop rate

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Is think is not about mats but rare skins and that happened due to desperation from Arenanet to increase revenue, the ones doing that are Ncsoft with Blade and Soul. Still, WoW does not have that problem and the system is similar. I don't see why FFXIV will pull a "GW2" (an in a way I will argue that the current retainer situation is even worst. In others games you pay once to increase the inventory), if at some points subscriptions go down probably they will monetize the cash shop in a more aggressive way like by creating a false scarcity of goods (buy this outfit now before is no longer available!).

Anyway, some in this topic are predicting scenarios if SE does this that are already a reality. Gil farmer and "regular" botters are already a major problem in certain servers and/or data centers.

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- NA/EU economy is already inflated thx to gil from bots. There is an insane disparity of prices against the gil a person can generate "from thin air".

- "Normal" botters already control certain markets on some servers (like consumables).

As I say, I rather benefit myself by trading some of the gil that I have no use whatsoever to buy cash shop currency.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

People usually complain about P2W in the context that it negatively affects other players' experience.

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Increasing supply of gil could increase prices on the market board. That would affect my experience negatively.

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Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers

There's enough P2W stuff already to this request join the catalog.

- Leveling Potions: Any P2W game sells Leveling Boost to give you advantage in comparison to Standard players, in FFXIV SQEX sells not EXP boosts, but your Job "fully" leveled already.
- Quest Potions: Like said above, in this situation you have advantage in Quest progression in comparison to a Standard players paying for that.
- Extra Retainers: Especially for Crafters, this is a Huge P2W feature, you can obtain extra/faster mats by Retainer Ventures, Extra Slots ( like any P2W game that sells Extra Slots to your account ), and way more MB power over Standard Players.
- Companion Premium: Gives to you extra Drops, acess management and more Extra Slots as well if you pay for the service in comparison to Standard users.

So i would be glad if SQEX don't start to sell Gil as well, that way i wouldn't be surprise if SQEX start to sell Mats or Equipments at Mogstation, that's the only thing left they must to do to FFXIV become a complete P2W game, because 80% of P2W stuff is already a reality. Not to mention that 9 out 10 new items released like Mount and Glamour Stuff is already Mogstation only.

The only way to stop RMT players are shutting down game servers forever.

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Incorrect job boosts only take you to 70 and gives you 500k gil and i380/390 gear. Which is replaced quickly in shadowbringers unless your wearing i400. MSq potions only complete the MSQ nothing else: Does not unlock Bahamut, omega,alexander, etc basically anything not tied to the mainstory. You still have mountain of stuff you have to earn and unlock to even compare to someone who has been playing for years.

Can i point out that they already do?

They give 500k gil with each job boost.

I honestly think such a thing as buying gils would affect the game very negatively. Not only it would give it a P2W vibe, but I would destroy the economy and most likely create a playerbase uproar.