MSQ roulette and AFK

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

Burden of proof is on you to break that down to see how that is the case. Because I'm maintaining is a net increase. I know the current exp/min of the MSQ. But lets see if you do.

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Not the person you were replying to, but some considerations:

By reducing ilvl you are slowing the content down. If we assume that things die at the same speed as they would in 50/60/70 roulette due to the adjustments, you're probably shaving 15m off of the total time if all cutscenes are skipped (using Praet as an example here), or adding 15-20m if none of them are (remember that Praet is pretty much boss after boss after boss once you get to them, and bosses die slower typically...whereas 50/60/70 has exactly 3 bosses). By also reducing the rewards to that of 50/60/70 roulette, without cutscenes you're looking at literally half the rewards/minute as 50/60/70, and with maybe a breakeven...but at the mercy of other players all agreeing to not vote skip cutscenes.

By adding barriers to certain currently skipped areas, you're slowing the content down again. This is probably less significant (maybe 2-3m tops), but still adds up.

I like the idea of what you suggested, mind you, but it needs a bit more refining IMO.

I may even be suggesting something a bit generous. Right now we're watching cutscenes for 500 tomestones of poetics and 100 goetia (if 80). When in reality, we ought to be working for those to begin with. Course I'm not above some item scaling for some other old dungeons for similar reasons.

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

I already did so, and its a large increase in exp and tomestones. You didn't bother so you didn't see. I mean I literally put the math in there already. But I'll to simplify it further. You get two roulette for the price of one if you don't skip a cutscene. But again you didn't read the suggestion, otherwise you would have seen that part too.

This is what you are saying:

"I don't want to spend an extra few minutes in MSQ for an extra dungeon's worth of reward."

Spend the time you spent before for extra reward, that's what you don't want lol. But you do you.

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The math is irrelevant. You're talking about displacement when velocity is what matters. That you can't wrap your head around that is staggering.

That you think it will only be a few extra minutes when you're adding trash and cutting player power by more than half is hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

The math is irrelevant. You're talking about displacement when velocity is what matters. That you can't wrap your head around that is staggering.

That you think it will only be a few extra minutes when you're adding trash and cutting player power by more than half is hilarious.

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And all you've done is made personal attacks, which stops now.

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

And all you've done is made personal attacks, which stops now.

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No part of that statement is correct.

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

And all you've done is made personal attacks, which stops now.

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Ironically the only personal attacks came from you, all because someone dared to disagree with your idea.

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Originally Posted by Felien

...stay AFK and trying to get the exp is unacceptably...

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That's the reason they get the boot.
And it doesn't need be MSQ roulette. Any duty apply.

And any reasoning trying to justify that behavior is nonsense: Who queued a duty for reap the rewards, will play the duty. We all 8 people are there, special snowflakes not allowed.

Love how the goalposts moved from "Unskippable cutscenes are fine. Just go do something else IRL in the meantime" to "You better be watching every second of those cutscenes, because if you're AFK by the time they're done, you're getting the kick"

Really, just make it skippable if one of these conditions is met and I'm fine:

1. No new players detected.
2. Undersized party.

Seem fair to you guys?

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

"You better be watching every second of those cutscenes, because if you're AFK by the time they're done, you're getting the kick"

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I don't see that anyone has said this. Just that you should be actively doing the encounter. If people are autoattacking they have noticed the cutscene is over and clicked on the badguy, but they've then gone back to doing other things during the fight which is not cool. It isn't hard to pay enough attention to play when there's stuff to play. The ask here is that if you're going to queue for the MSQ, don't make other people carry you. Missing 10-20 seconds of the fight isn't that bad and I will not vote kick if I see people eventually start to play, but if they're autoattacking through ALL of the fight.. yeah.. I'm going to say something and votekick them.