5.0 Crafting Changes

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Originally Posted by Plastics

1. We gain stacks so efficiently and quickly now that the rotation that will be used is Miracle Blessing if the difficulty is high enough. Try the new abilities, IQ 6 is irrelevant today, we're not in SB or HW.
2. The current short rotations and the current meta with the control cap means you will *always* use Blessing. When you get short enough to think Brow would be useful, you're better off doing it without IQ at all, which is a better strategy given we have new abilities. Again, we have new abilities for irrelevant easy shit that make Brow completely redundant. Try them out.
3. Nobody actually does this, and it can be done without Brow.

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1. You don't seem to understand Byregot's Miracle.
2. IQ > SH2 > WN > 4x Prepatory Touch > GS > Blessing needs a 2nd SH
   Do that on a recipe around your level, and show me a comparable way to get the same quality without IQ.
3. Nobody actually does it because it only existed during 3.x, when Brow required Good/Excellent condition.

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Originally Posted by Plastics

Both of these make massive assumptions, while denying entirely the fact that Brow has zero relevant use right now.

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You already conceded the point that Brow is better than Blessing in at least some situations, even if you don't personally feel those situations are important. You're too caught up in trying to defend SE's decision to realize what an asinine argument you're putting forward against an utterly innocuous criticism of a design decision. By your own admission, you don't even understand why they changed it; you simply assume that because they changed it they must have had a good reason, thus it's a good change. This is an obvious example of begging the question. Furthermore, having failed to silence the criticism, you're now trying to twist this to make it a personal attack against me. This really isn't a productive use of my time, and I would encourage you to take a break to learn how to discuss things constructively.

Is there any meaningful new CP breakpoint that can be reached in the current gear?

DoL only gets around 30ish more GP from their new gear, which isn't really enough to allow for anything new in their rotations.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Is there any meaningful new CP breakpoint that can be reached in the current gear?

DoL only gets around 30ish more GP from their new gear, which isn't really enough to allow for anything new in their rotations.

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Well, with food that breaks you past the 850 mark, meaning once you hit a higher gathering threshold you can 4x appraisal boosts and still use +5% gathering on the 95% to ensure 100%.

As for crafters, 605 CP is looking to be pretty dumb, but whether that allows for more depends on what the new gear / Ishgard is going to require.

Any idea what's the required stats to 100% quick synth lvl80 mats?

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Originally Posted by DeorNitengael

Any idea what's the required stats to 100% quick synth lvl80 mats?

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Alot more than is possible to get at the moment if they still use the same system as previous expansions (which i doubt they changed) You won't ever reach 100% in the same tier of content.

anyone not getting past 50% at start using full hq?

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Well, with food that breaks you past the 850 mark meaning once you hit a higher gathering threshold you can 4x appraisal boosts and still use +5% gathering on the 95% to ensure 100%.

As for crafters, 605 CP is looking to be pretty dumb, but whether that allows for more depends on what the new gear / Ishgard is going to require.

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Considering my spec rotation doesn't even use 500 CP, and that's with reuse, lol. Even one star is almost the same. Non-spec, however, uses around 530 CP with reuse. Both are less than 15 steps too. No prudent touch used either.

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Originally Posted by Thela

Alot more than is possible to get at the moment if they still use the same system as previous expansions (which i doubt they changed) You won't ever reach 100% in the same tier of content.

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They did buff quick synth considerably during SB, it went from failing a few when mass crafting Twinsilk or Gazelle Leather in melded Ala Mhigan to full success and 20% hq rate. So it might be different this time around.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

They did buff quick synth considerably during SB, it went from failing a few when mass crafting Twinsilk or Gazelle Leather in melded Ala Mhigan to full success and 20% hq rate. So it might be different this time around.

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Ala Mhigan came in 5.1 though, didn't it? Technically not same tier gear.