Thread: 5.0 Crafting Changes

The big changes in the prelim patch notes:

• Piece by Piece & Muscle Memory cap at 1,000 progress
• Maker's Mark caps at 25 steps
• Byregot's Brow is gone
• Generic Name/Brand of the Elements given to all jobs
• Adjusted Control caps at 3,000
• Innovation stacks with Inner Quiet
• Heart of the crafter has max of 5 uses per synth
• Full HQ mats give you 75% starting quality instead of 50%
• QoL changes to crafting UI

Originally Posted by Vasanta_Lockheart

Innovation always stacked with IQ btw

Innovation adds 50% of your base Control, ShaBri changes it to add 50% of your IQ adjusted Control.

Seems like SE saw that Heart of the Disciplines would be used again with the new modification. Only reason I see where they would nerf a move that was never really used due to the required consumable.

Also, sounds like we will need to setup double-blessings rotation now that the IQ bonus (and Innovation) is capped.

Seems like we have new puzzles to resolved now that we cannot just pump the biggest numbers as possible.
We'll need to see the effects of the new skills to evaluate this though.

I really wasnt expecting this change at all. Dunno if well see double blessings since youd still need to build up quite a few stacks and blessings power should still increase with inner quiet stacks.

What really caught my attention was the new abilities. Yeah we dont know most of them, but rapid synth 3 could be either 70% or even bulkier, replacing piece by piece. Preparatory Touch sounds like some new combo move like the observe combos.

I think double Blessing would be way too much CP, but a full B-Miracle does 5/6 of a B-Blessing, and leaves you at IQ-6 for a B-Blessing. Advantage for specialists.

Delineations are fairly cheap if you're doing weekly custom deliveries, but the 45 CP cost is why I only use them with Whistle While you Work and Maker's Mark, on rough recipes.

Yeah, we aren't hitting a double Byregot's for a long, long while, at least not on release gear. Just expect the adjustment to bonus granted by control to be their way of saying.. "Hello HQ mats", and that PbP/MuMe/MaMa 1K caps is their way of saying, "Enjoy craftsmanship builds, and/or more actions spent on progress building actions". Can now effectively do a trade of.. 11 stacks of IQ (without Innov.), versus 10 stacks (with Innov.)

But let's see what the new actions bring first.

Originally Posted by Goudaba

Seems like SE saw that Heart of the Disciplines would be used again with the new modification. Only reason I see where they would nerf a move that was never really used due to the required consumable.

Also, sounds like we will need to setup double-blessings rotation now that the IQ bonus (and Innovation) is capped.

Seems like we have new puzzles to resolved now that we cannot just pump the biggest numbers as possible.
We'll need to see the effects of the new skills to evaluate this though.

They nerfed heart because it can be used to create an infinite CP loop with whistle. "No one" uses heart because its overkill. If they didn't nerf heart though, Ishgard crafting would probably been all about doing endless whistle loops.