Please fix summoner Physick

SUM is fine the way it is. If any teaks need to be made to healing spells I would reccomend giving the AST a instant AOE heal like Indomitability or Assize. I do not think giving dps a heal is wize. Enough casters stand in avoidable mechanics. Giving them a way to heal themselves is not needed.

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Originally Posted by Lordfurious

SUM is fine the way it is. If any teaks need to be made to healing spells I would reccomend giving the AST a instant AOE heal like Indomitability or Assize. I do not think giving dps a heal is wize. Enough casters stand in avoidable mechanics. Giving them a way to heal themselves is not needed.

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So you mean like Earthly Star? It takes more pre-planning than Indom does (and you never hold Assize for healing, btw), but it’s an instant heal. Then again, all healing in this game is usually planned; because all damage is scripted.

Assize is a great instant heal and has a much bigger aoe heal than planetary indulgance. Every time I cast Assize everyone in the massive aoe recieves a 20k heal, while helping to dps. Not using this is silly. As far as earthly star is concerned it is not instant. It requires manually targeting. The other two are 1 button press aoe heals usable easily while moving.

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Originally Posted by Lordfurious

Assize is a great instant heal and has a much bigger aoe heal than planetary indulgance. Every time I cast Assize everyone in the massive aoe recieves a 20k heal, while helping to dps. Not using this is silly. As far as earthly star is concerned it is not instant. It requires manually targeting. The other two are 1 button press aoe heals usable easily while moving.

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In terms of optimization, you never hold it for healing. Because then you lose casts of it throughout a fight, and that’s inefficient use of your kit. Assize is a damage button—especially after the recent buff to it that lowered its CD to 45 seconds. It’s not something you use for AOE healing on WHM: that’s what your HoTs and Asylum are for.

Earthly Star you pre-plan for. If you place it and use it correctly, it blows up on its own without you having to toggle it for an AOE. If you’re concerned about movement and healing, that’s what you use Lightspeed for.

But, by all means—let’s break AST some more and make it even more valued over WHM. :D

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Originally Posted by Lordfurious

If any teaks need to be made to healing spells I would reccomend giving the AST a instant AOE heal like Indomitability or Assize.

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daily reminder that AST is capable of actually solo healing an ultimate fight already

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

In terms of optimization, you never hold it for healing. Because then you lose casts of it throughout a fight, and that’s inefficient use of your kit. Assize is a damage button—especially after the recent buff to it that lowered its CD to 45 seconds. It’s not something you use for AOE healing on WHM: that’s what your HoTs and Asylum are for.

Earthly Star you pre-plan for. If you place it and use it correctly, it blows up on its own without you having to toggle it for an AOE. If you’re concerned about movement and healing, that’s what you use Lightspeed for.

But, by all means—let’s break AST some more and make it even more valued over WHM. :D

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Thank you for telling me how I need to play my class. I'm so glad to know that I'm not able to use the skills that I want to use because you have decided for me what I should and shouldn't do. As far as checking your stacks of flowers in a 24 man raid with mass chaos reszzing healer from other parties and rezzing own party members constant mass of heals nobody has the time to check their flowers and to be honest with you there is hardly ever a cure or cure 2 cast. It's mainly about AOE healing. As a returning player people like myself run into arrogant elitist like yourself who tell us that we're doing everything wrong and we need to conform to your way of doing things. If you want fresh blood in the community learn to play nice and get along with us. I offered an opinion if you don't like it oh well it's America you're entitled to your opinion I don't need to keep hearing it. And I certainly don't need to hear that you think I'm not playing my class correctly because that is upsetting. Thanks elitist.

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Originally Posted by Lordfurious

Thank you for telling me how I need to play my class. I'm so glad to know that I'm not able to use the skills that I want to use because you have decided for me what I should and shouldn't do. As far as checking your stacks of flowers in a 24 man raid with mass chaos reszzing healer from other parties and rezzing own party members constant mass of heals nobody has the time to check their flowers and to be honest with you there is hardly ever a cure or cure 2 cast. It's mainly about AOE healing. As a returning player people like myself run into arrogant elitist like yourself who tell us that we're doing everything wrong and we need to conform to your way of doing things. If you want fresh blood in the community learn to play nice and get along with us. I offered an opinion if you don't like it oh well it's America you're entitled to your opinion I don't need to keep hearing it. And I certainly don't need to hear that you think I'm not playing my class correctly because that is upsetting. Thanks elitist.

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Hilarious, even managed to fit in the "elitist" buzzword.

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Originally Posted by Lordfurious

Thank you for telling me how I need to play my class. I'm so glad to know that I'm not able to use the skills that I want to use because you have decided for me what I should and shouldn't do. As far as checking your stacks of flowers in a 24 man raid with mass chaos reszzing healer from other parties and rezzing own party members constant mass of heals nobody has the time to check their flowers and to be honest with you there is hardly ever a cure or cure 2 cast. It's mainly about AOE healing. As a returning player people like myself run into arrogant elitist like yourself who tell us that we're doing everything wrong and we need to conform to your way of doing things. If you want fresh blood in the community learn to play nice and get along with us. I offered an opinion if you don't like it oh well it's America you're entitled to your opinion I don't need to keep hearing it. And I certainly don't need to hear that you think I'm not playing my class correctly because that is upsetting. Thanks elitist.

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"Thanks for telling me I shouldn't attempt to hammer the square peg into the round hole when i have a round peg, but that's elitist."

but memes aside, I'd like to get back to silly ideas for smn's physick. I swear I actually heard somewhere that somehow physic had the nichest of niche group dps gains by cheesing lb generation on somebody under 10% because you could get multiple 'critical healing' limit break boosts because it heals next to nothing, and was potentially equivalent to 180 potency of dps(over r3's 120) for a melee lb3 if not overcapped.

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Originally Posted by Lordfurious

Thank you for telling me how I need to play my class. I'm so glad to know that I'm not able to use the skills that I want to use because you have decided for me what I should and shouldn't do.

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If you asked any healer main that optimizes WHM, they would tell you the same things I did. Assize has become a DPS button. Not a healing button. You can save it for healing if you want...but if you do save it for healing, it’s sub-optimal. Because you will lose casts throughout a fight of it.

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As far as checking your stacks of flowers in a 24 man raid with mass chaos reszzing healer from other parties and rezzing own party members constant mass of heals nobody has the time to check their flowers and to be honest with you there is hardly ever a cure or cure 2 cast.

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The gauge sounds when you have 3 lilies. That being said, unless you’re prepping a Plenary, the lilies are a worthless mechanic on WHM and are largely ignored. Have been since 4.0 launch.

You don’t really need to tell me about the hectic-ness of 24-mans. I routinely heal them.

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It's mainly about AOE healing.

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Yes. Which is what your HoTs are for (e.g., Medica II and Asylum, assuming you can get players to stand in the latter).

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As a returning player people like myself run into arrogant elitist like yourself who tell us that we're doing everything wrong and we need to conform to your way of doing things. If you want fresh blood in the community learn to play nice and get along with us. I offered an opinion if you don't like it oh well it's America you're entitled to your opinion I don't need to keep hearing it. And I certainly don't need to hear that you think I'm not playing my class correctly because that is upsetting. Thanks elitist.

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Lol.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

If you asked any healer main that optimizes WHM, they would tell you the same things I did. Assize has become a DPS button. Not a healing button. You can save it for healing if you want...but if you do save it for healing, it’s sub-optimal. Because you will lose casts throughout a fight of it.



The gauge sounds when you have 3 lilies. That being said, unless you’re prepping a Plenary, the lilies are a worthless mechanic on WHM and are largely ignored. Have been since 4.0 launch.

You don’t really need to tell me about the hectic-ness of 24-mans. I routinely heal them.



Yes. Which is what your HoTs are for (e.g., Medica II and Asylum, assuming you can get players to stand in the latter).



Lol.

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