Jobs and Class, I am nervous now.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Huzzah indeed, but no Sentinel, Stoneskin, or Raise, or Cure. I hope the white mages can handle all that responsibility.

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Sentinel isn't much to fret over imo.
Sanguine Rite gives you a similar damage reduction on THM which carries over to BLM since Jobs can use their main class skills.

Stoneskin and curing are a healers role thus the WHM better be taking care of it otherwise...they suck...>_> lol

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Gonna be their job.

BLM has Sanguine Rite, which cuts more damage than Sentinel anyway.

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You beat me to it...lol

I do like to stoenskin myself though :c

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I do like to stoenskin myself though :c

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Everyone like to do everything self-sufficiently themselves right now.

Jobs are completely in the other direction. They are more about playing your role even better, but depending on others to play their roles as well.

A party of jobs >>>>>>> a party of classes.

A solo job <<<<< a solo class.

That was the design philosophy, and this new info tells me they're going to be just that.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Everyone like to do everything self-sufficiently themselves right now.

Jobs are completely in the other direction. They are more about playing your role even better, but depending on others to play their roles as well.

A party of jobs >>>>>>> a party of classes.

A solo job <<<<< a solo class.

That was the design philosophy, and this new info tells me they're going to be just that.

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Wouldn't you say tht the Ifrit battle kinda forces you to be self-efficient to help out the healers?

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Wouldn't you say tht the Ifrit battle kinda forces you to be self-efficient to help out the healers?

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I'm thinking that maybe it would be best for the DD's to go as classes for Ifrit, remembering that Jobs aren't meant to replace classes, since classes are more about self-sufficiency.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Wouldn't you say tht the Ifrit battle kinda forces you to be self-efficient to help out the healers?

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True, I believe they have further shafted the DDs with the remove of few abilities "sentinel and cure" in particular in favor to the already popular ARC for those battles...

Yes, we still don't know how it will work, but I really can't say that the MNK is a much wanted job now more than the PGL was with those battles... unless his new abilities really wreck some havoc.

"I can't use stoneskin, healing spells, and -insert other class role here-..."

It's funny because as soon as Conjurer became an awesome healer with almost limitless supplies of MP, in Ifrit the healers and leaders still tell DD's to heal themselves when it's the roll of the healer to do that.

So when jobs come around in 5 days, YOU need to utilize your roll in a party... not everyone elses. Leave the healing to the conjurer and the support to the conjurer and the archer.

And the most important, WAIT TILL IT RELEASES

i thought for most part classes were for whatever and jobs were for endgame type stuff. so them being harder to use was supposed to be the point no? use them for endgame and have harder times with it then with our classes that you can pretty much have every spell/move. maybe they plan on making endgame only job specific and normal stuff class specific or job specific? or maybe that is the diff between difficulty modes? no idea till we see though, maybe the extra moves for jobs are what makes it relevent. also maybe the stats change too that we dont' know how much but they probably could have a affect to other things for those jobs. resistence or maybe bigger diff is to harder mobs like bosses. no clue yet. guess we will see soon enough.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

"I can't use stoneskin, healing spells, and -insert other class role here-..."

It's funny because as soon as Conjurer became an awesome healer with almost limitless supplies of MP, in Ifrit the healers and leaders still tell DD's to heal themselves when it's the roll of the healer to do that.

So when jobs come around in 5 days, YOU need to utilize your roll in a party... not everyone elses. Leave the healing to the conjurer and the support to the conjurer and the archer.

And the most important, WAIT TILL IT RELEASES

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thats nice and logical and all but the current instance fights dont promote some DD jobs(not classes) very well to begin w/ and clustering up for heals in these fights is usually a bad idea except at very minuscule situations. I foresee people just doing it the way they already do after the job system is released. I dont see PGL/MNK gettin any less better at being a complete MP sponge during ifrit/moogle fights lol. And a THM that cant heal others in those OH! SHIT! moments or themselves reliably enough to just survive wont be any better at DDing when they are dead. And there is this entire gimpy spell problem w/ not being able to cure people standing next to you while yer on a 2inch incline higher than them problem too that still exist that shouldnt.