Glamour dresser red flag

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

A similar example is say I want Red Mage to wear the Eastern Togi and Summoner the Carbuncle Jacket. I can't without permanently locking a mogstation outfit into the Dresser.

No matter how you slice it. This is a terrible limitation.

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This person said it best. You can't put in items you're afraid of losing and use them on jobs that are the same type. If you want to glam your WHM and AST differently then you can't put in any gear that will be heard to obtain again. You can only multi glam jobs with cheap great you're not afraid of losing. That really sucks and you can't work around it using the old system. This will really limit people who want multiple jobs to look different.

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Originally Posted by Skitz470

The thing I dont understand is that Blizzard put in the whole transmog wardrobe, which handles ALL of the potential items your account can have from the entire game and I have never heard of the system causing any sort of server impact. Now yeah, FFXIV does have the additional aspect of handling dyes but yeah...dropping items into your dresser shouldn't be THAT massive of a server issue. I mean WoW handles your bank, guild banks, inventories, the entire Wardrobe (which carries over a players entire account cross-servers) the toys and mount lists (again, cross-server) and probably some other things im forgetting without any issues....but they put a 200 item cap because they are concerned about server impact? I'll be honest, that sort of makes me wonder as to the condition/state of the FFXIV servers then, though tbh Im not any sort of network guru or anything like that.

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The difference is Blizzard took the time to design their system properly. Their transmog collection system was built to be part of an expansion, which means their team took their time over the course of expansion development to get it right. FFXIV's team took a few months between patches to both decide this was a thing they could do and then quickly design a way to do it. The whole thing reeks of being a slapdash solution thrown together without any real thought or proper design work. This ridiculous change in the patch notes as compared with the words that came out of Yoshi P's mouth ONE WEEK AGO is further evidence of this. SE didn't really know what it was doing with this system and now we all get to suffer the consequences of that.

Design is hard. It takes time to do properly and well.

If the two systems work together it'll be alright, and I think this system COULD take over for the current system. but together? It has the potential to be a hot mess.


The idea was to add 200 inventory slots that are dedicated for glamour gear, freeing up space and making the glamour system better. If I can't use gear in the dresser with the old glamour system while there aren't enough plates to cover all the jobs, thats not going to help my inventory. It means I'd need one version of the gear in the dresser to use in plates, and one in my inventory to do old style item glamours to make up for the fact I don't have enough plates to cover all my classes.

If the systems are totally separate I might as well ignore the dresser until it can handle a plate for every class.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

Why create a system where people already have to question themselves if they even should put that in or not?

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This is the crux of the entire matter. There's shouldn't be a question on whether or not to be able to store stuff. Currently there is.

I fail to see the point of reinventing the wheel. Do they just not want to copy something from WoW? MMO's have ripped each other off for years when one has a good idea. What's the deal with this asinine glamour system that just over-complicates something that should be simple?

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

I remember this too. Who the F wants to use the Glamour Toilet if it destroys all our items. This wasn't an impressive system to begin with (basically just WOW's Void Storage setup), now it's even more underwhelming.

Not impressed. At all.

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Ah yes, The most USEFUL and WIDELY PRAISED feature in WoW that EVERYONE USES.

Bolded for unfiltered pure sarcasm. Most people forget Void Storage even exists.

I hope noone uses this system so we get a not-beta implementation of it next patch like with Perform. As is it's a niche solution that doesn't solve half of the problems its intended to.

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Originally Posted by CosmicKirby

Ah yes, The most USEFUL and WIDELY PRAISED feature in WoW that EVERYONE USES.

Bolded for unfiltered pure sarcasm. Most people forget Void Storage even exists.

I hope noone uses this system so we get a not-beta implementation of it next patch like with Perform. As is it's a niche solution that doesn't solve half of the problems its intended to.

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The sad part is it's a crappy system that may just cause more issues if they ever decide to make a proper system.

Guild Wars 2, World of Warcraft, Star Wars the Old Republic and even Lord of the Rings Online are amazing examples of an outfit system that works without punishing the player.

I'm really afraid that SE rushed this outfit system and now we will permanently be stuck with it.

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Originally Posted by Zym

I fail to see the point of reinventing the wheel.

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No they have to reinvent it, in the most strange way, only to have people rightfully complain that its bad..which prompts the answer that we are just greedy players that cant get enough and should be happy because somehow it took a huge amount of work. Then the system will just stay in place even though a lot of people dislike it and even though alot of people show that it will be bad for the future..and writing down examples on how to do it better which should give them ideas...and then months/years later they see that its truly just a bad system and either still stick with it (Band-aids everywhere) or decide to finally change it..(if its for better or worse depends) I mean that exactly how housing is right now x)..

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

This person said it best. You can't put in items you're afraid of losing and use them on jobs that are the same type. If you want to glam your WHM and AST differently then you can't put in any gear that will be heard to obtain again. You can only multi glam jobs with cheap great you're not afraid of losing. That really sucks and you can't work around it using the old system. This will really limit people who want multiple jobs to look different.

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However you could do this example.

Glamour your magic dps gear with what you want the red mage gear to be, the mogstation stuff, then use the glamour plates to glamour your black mage and summoner jobs.

You can't do it again for another job that shares the same armor, however it's more freedom than what was afforded to you before.

I was really looking forward to being able to free up some space with this system but if it permanently destroys items that are put in it combined with the system's limitations? No thanks. I'm a bit confused why this doesn't work like the armoire since that technically destroys items that are placed in it as well, but you can still retrieve them later.