4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

And then if that rushed implementation winds up being a hot mess, people come to the forums and complain, wondering why SE didn't just push back the release. I was personally really looking forward to the new relic myself, but if SE pushing it back means the content is possibly that much better when we do get it, I can be patient and wait.

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Yea, would just be nice if they could disclose some information about the content. Heck they brought up more info about content coming in 4.2(The Battle Replay) and yet that was never mentioned or even hinted at as far as I can recall. Just a shame they are more willing to share stuff that was never mentioned that give a report on content than they've been working on.

I mean, I am personally excited about Shirogane housing, Shinryu Ex, and the new 24-man, but these won't keep the player base enthralled for any kind of meaningful amount of time.

I think the complaint is a valid one. Obviously, saying that the patch is empty is hyperbolic, but it does feel like it is lacking. At the very least, some kind of new relic weapon would have helped to keep players' interest for longer.

All that said, it's not like I am going to unsubscribe - but I would enjoy a wider breadth of content in patches going forward.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

it's not going to be super useful, but it's the basis for something that can be expanded on. the point was this was added instead of another Lv 70 expert dungeon, which if most 50/60 dungeons are used as an example most people forget about them really quickly.

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How can it be expanded on in a way which justifies its existence? It'll never be used for current expansion content. POTD exists. Roulettes exist. A whole lot of people are above where it could be almost useful. I can see its benefit, but at the same time...the benefit is so small it shouldn't have been a thing. Dev time would have been better spent elsewhere. For example: A L70 version of Hall of the Novice.

It's normal for a mid-cycle patch to add more content (I'm pretty sure that's how PotD was released and most Anima relic steps started on those, too), I do feel the lull a bit, too.

I still have plenty of back log content to do, but 4.1 looks to be the ultimate QoL patch verses the normal content updates. Some of this is stuff we've been begging for for years, like minions and chocobos being out together, and we still need help for some jobs having balancing issues. It's all great stuff, just a little less tangible.

So, I'm genuinely excited for that, but it kinda guts our regular daily stuff since, other than one new dungeon and getting the weekly drop from the new 24-man, there isn't much new on that front. 4.1 is mostly story content.

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Originally Posted by Pence

How can it be expanded on in a way which justifies its existence? It'll never be used for current expansion content. POTD exists. Roulettes exist. A whole lot of people are above where it could be almost useful. I can see its benefit, but at the same time...the benefit is so small it shouldn't have been a thing. Dev time would have been better spent elsewhere. For example: A L70 version of Hall of the Novice.

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that 100% opinion. i've never once been inside Hall of the Novice or Stone Sky Sea. i don't hate either of those things, i don't think either of those things is wasted development time, but any development time going towards those things is definitely not BETTER for me.

it's justified because it's different.

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Originally Posted by Istaru

You don't like me exercising my right to provide my feedback on their product?

How about you leave instead?

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Because calling it a 'turd' is a really mature and well-elaborated way to express feedback.
Oh, but please, continue on. It amuses me greatly.

I am fine with the patch myself, really. Still got things to do with the current stuff so this is something I look forward to when I do need a change.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

So, I'm genuinely excited for that, but it kinda guts our regular daily stuff since, other than one new dungeon and getting the weekly drop from the new 24-man, there isn't much new on that front. 4.1 is mostly story content.

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new beast tribe which was expected. how does it gut the regular daily stuff?

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

that 100% opinion. i've never once been inside Hall of the Novice or Stone Sky Sea. i don't hate either of those things, i don't think either of those things is wasted development time, but any development time going towards those things is definitely not BETTER for me.

it's justified because it's different.

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It would presumably better the skill level of the general population - which was suppose to be a major focus of Stormblood (Failed). This would benefit everybody, including yourself.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

Where is the content that they wanted to create instead of one of our dungeons?

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My guess is that Ultimate and Rival Wings devoured that extra dungeon and i'm cool with it as i don't do dungeons anymore.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

new beast tribe which was expected. how does it gut the regular daily stuff?

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Oh! I forgot about those! (Ahh I need to get on those @-@)

Honestly, it's more, since we're coming off the expansion, we'll still be on the same stuff to grind for maximizing ourselves. Other than the 24-man and Scalla. Although, I haven't looked at what DoL/DoH have to deal with now.

Stormblood really didn't succeed in lowering the skill ceiling at all, did it?