SMN - Most Glaring Issues

I started playing smn on ffxi in 2005 and it's been my main since. I am a casual player, but I have deep love for the class.

1. Bahamut is an issue. Moving his positioning back quite a bit would help with the overlap or a toggle.
2. Devotion needs tweaking. I am not going to pretend to know how to do it, but it's usefulness is limited now.
3. I'd personally like to see deathflare fixed. It's not something that can be used all the time, it needs to have presence.
4. Bane feels pathetic now. I get the decision on the nerf, but it's usefulness is now severely limited.
5. The BIGGEST issue is with the aetherflow punishment. No stacks while in trance is a pain. 3.0 aetherflow felt more flexible and I think worked better. I do like that you can keep the stacks though. The timing out of flow stacks was always a concern. Failure of stacks, punishment. Die because you are squishy. Punishment. Personally, I hate that bane and fester can miss. Was bad in 3.0, but in 4.0 a stack loss is brutal for dps. I'd like to see this issue addressed first.

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Originally Posted by Vallhallix

You reduce the size of my Bahamut, I will transfer to Ragnarok, and i'm coming for you, Gallus. We will protest naked in the streets of every major city, and I assure you, you don't want to see Au Ra naked, it's not pretty. We shall form the largest fps destroying line you have ever seen. Until we all get bored and eventually queue up for something.

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Lmfao xD

/10char

I just want my Sustain back. It's hurting solo play at lower levels, physick can barely make a dent.

I'm posting this in both the SMN and SCH threads because it affects both (and also affects ACN, obviously. The lack of a good pet heal is noticeable even before level 30....)

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Originally Posted by Cyrox

Hi, I'm a career savage-raid summoner. I've been a summoner since my first day of playing (the PS4 release). With Yoshi-P's recent forum post about the state of job changes coming in patches 4.01 and 4.05, I wanted to post what I see are the most glaring issues with 4.0 SMN in the hopes that the devs see them and consider making some necessary changes.

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I feel like there is also something I should make you aware off.

Ahk Morn is a false 680 potency. Playing with Red Mage I noticed that my own Verflare which is 550 potency outdamage my Ahk Morns on my summoner at the same Ilvl with the same gear.

Comparing Foul 650 potency to Ahk Morn's 680 potency, you will find that the average Ahk Morn hits for around 10k and the average Foul is around 15k.

Can't Ahk morn more then every two minutes, and it isn't even 680 potency.
Foul despite being 30 potency less supposedly does much more damage, and has a quarter of the cooldown time.

SE should just make bahamut invisible to other class other than summoner.

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Originally Posted by Ariomi

Ahk Morn is a false 680 potency. Playing with Red Mage I noticed that my own Verflare which is 550 potency outdamage my Ahk Morns on my summoner at the same Ilvl with the same gear.
Comparing Foul 650 potency to Ahk Morn's 680 potency, you will find that the average Ahk Morn hits for around 10k and the average Foul is around 15k.

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Even more - wyrmwave despite having 160 potency does less damage than ruin3 - like 2.7k vs 3.5k
Which shouldn't be really a surprise. We knew that pet hits something around 80% of its potency. No idea why... Does square even know about that lol? If yes then why pets are made that way? It's dumb. Also like almost everything around SMN job design feels like a huge facepalm to me...

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Originally Posted by Ariomi

Ahk Morn is a false 680 potency...Comparing Foul 650 potency to Ahk Morn's 680 potency, you will find that the average Ahk Morn hits for around 10k and the average Foul is around 15k.

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It's 680 potency, but scaled off of Bahamut's stats, which I think mirror Garuda's / Ifrit's.

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Originally Posted by ShaolinMike

It's 680 potency, but scaled off of Bahamut's stats, which I think mirror Garuda's / Ifrit's.

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Except that normal Enkindle is scaled to our stats. Ahk Morn realistically is more around 540 potency.

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Originally Posted by Angry_Evil

If that's how you usually "start with miasma and bio" https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/character/133917/15/, I don't see how you can tell people what is wiser or not...
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I wouldn't follow FFlogs as that data was pulled 2 weeks ago when I was learning rotations and understanding the fight to pull rotation. I only cleared Lak on the same day that I was in a clear group.

Now I'm pulling 3800k on lak and a bit more with Sudanex without pots or food as I understand the fights and I know when to use CDS. Never look into logs unless you actually know who you talking to as many of us don't use Logs.

Thats the problem after all - people just see numbers but won't take a 2nd thought how this numbers where built.