Royal Menagerie

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Originally Posted by hynaku

How's it your problem when tanks and healers keep leaving and party gets disbanded. Means fight is not just fine how it is and needs to be changed.

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The fight itself is fine. What needs to happen is for people to actually learn their Job, the mechanics of the fight (most of which have been seen already) and have patience/teach newbies. A few days ago, I intentionally DF'd this fight and the party, consisting of mostly new people, cleared it on their second attempt.

Nidhogg, Ozma, Scathach, Diabolos Hollow and Cruise Chaser (Blasty) were not nerfed.

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

11 groups, upward of 50 attempts and no clears. Had both Tanks quit on one group when three people said they were new. Not liking this fight.:p

I've cleared it multiple times and I only use DF. The first clear rook 3 or 4 tries, but that was just learning mechanics. I would say that I'm an average skilled player at this game, at beast, and it's really not hard now that I know what I'm doing.

Really liked the difficulty of this fight. It's about time we had a decent challenge in the MSQ. My wife and I were both able to clear it in DF and PF in less than 3 wipes each time. Please don't nerf this fight, it gives the story some substance.

It's better to make a PF party if you are failing a lot, and make sure you're ready to learn the mechanics. It's not really that hard, I can promise you that.

Do not nerf this battle; everyone must step up their game and be ready to do anything you can to clear this trial. Come now, you guys just stepped up another 10 levels after all; It won't be satisfying if all that you get for your journey, your trials, ends up just like HW's Thordan battle in its climax. SE wants you to do your best and come out satisfied!

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Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

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I've beaten this four times with df and once with a pf to help someone clear..

Alright, just need to complain on the forums evidently. Cleared on my third try after posting.

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Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

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I have, twice (I'll go a third time after a phone call). In both instances, the party would wipe once and then get the clear a second time. All it takes is for everyone to be paying attention.

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Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

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Ok, i did. Have a bard friend(who goes out of his way not to do hard content and is only an ok combatant - hes an A+ crafter though) who just got to the end of the story. Joined him and a tank friend(good tank), and the 3 of us hit DF. Bard was going in blind, and we didnt explain the mechanics. No idea how many people in the DF were new. No one asked any questions, so tank pulled and we went for it. Bard died a few times early in phase 1 and 3, but was up for almost all of the last 40% or so of the fight. One shotted it. He didnt enjoy it as much as we did, but he got his clear.