Echo seem be still need

I have to ask SE to NOT patch the echo in for the final boss fight, it's almost PERFECT.

It's supposed to be difficult and acts as a major "check" for players going into post game content. Keep the fight feeling epic even on normal.

At least let it set a few patch cycles before echoing it.

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Originally Posted by Aronys

You mean like every story dungeon ever?
You are grasping at straws now.

If you can't clear the final boss... git gud.

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Thordan, The Praetorium, Cape Westwind, Castrum Medridianum, Susano, Lakshmi, Bismarck, and Ravana, are a few fights that don't require both tanks and healers, and can be done via a solo method to complete, I can go further but I rather not embarrass you anymore, so I think you need to "git gud" and go back to learn your history of fights in this game.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

Thordan, The Praetorium, Cape Westwind, Castrum Medridianum, Susano, Lakshmi, Bismarck, and Ravana, are a few fights that don't require both tanks and healers, and can be done via a solo method to complete, I can go further but I rather not embarrass you anymore, so I think you need to "git gud" and go back to learn your history of fights in this game.

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He was talking about dungeons - you're talking about trials. You know, dungeons - those things with only 4 people. If your one healer dies during a bossfight in a dungeon - how are chances to clear that fight? If your tank dies - how chaotic does the fight get?

Trials are having that little bit of back up because you've normally got two of each role - but in a dungeon: you're the healer, you die, chances are its a wipe. Some trials might not require both tank and healer, but pretty much all dungeons need the one tank and the one healer there is to function properly. And thats what he was talking about - when you reach the final battle, specially as tank/healer, you should have went through several story dungeons that are indeed requiring you to pay attention.

(I'll admit that doesnt hold totally true - as a main paladin I've healed through several bossfights during SB-dungeons because the healer died now...)

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

Thordan, The Praetorium, Cape Westwind, Castrum Medridianum, Susano, Lakshmi, Bismarck, and Ravana, are a few fights that don't require both tanks and healers, and can be done via a solo method to complete, I can go further but I rather not embarrass you anymore, so I think you need to "git gud" and go back to learn your history of fights in this game.

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When that content was first released, I really doubt there were groups that would clear it without the tanks or healers.

Right now? Sure. But now the people that enter the dungeon/trial is people who have run it plenty of times and are overgeared for the content.

When I cleared the current final Trial in the MSQ almost everyone, including myself, were less than 10 iLvl over the min and it was their first time through it. It was rough, but we managed a clear with only 2 wipes, and both wipes we brought it down to 10%.