Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

Just because a person has their frown equipped doesn't mean they're doing mentor roulette. They not even be a pve mentor in the first place. More importantly mentors aren't personal servants. Them leaving a dungeon shouldn't be any different than another player leaving a dungeon.

So, I queued for mentor roulette yesterday. Zone in and it's Steps of Faith. It was me and two other people, a sprout and a WHM in ironworks gear. Two dps zoned in and out while I stood there asking FC mates to join and let them know what roles were needed. At last the party fills up and we start the duty.

The white mage struggled (they got the achievement when we cleared) and it was a heck of a mess, lots of deaths because adds were not being gathered up and cannoned down, but we cleared.

Yet there aren't any threads talking about this kind of duty, where a mentor stays, gets the party filled, and helps people clear it because it's just not outrageous enough. People come to the forums to complain, not to talk about what's going well.

If someone leaves, that's their option. They already get a penalty. Be grateful they're not turning off their system and forcing you to kick them instead.

SE already did something against this: the 30 minute Duty Finder penalty. I dont think SE can do more then that, if they introduced harsher penalty then those players will just force the party to kick them out. They will either pretend to be disconnected and wait till they are kicked or just not do anything and wait till 1 player leaves or they themselves are kicked from the group.

People are still doing this, I joined Brayflox Normal few days ago and I noticed that after the first boss the tank was disconnected. We waited for him to return, then when he logged back in he gets disconnected again. I have seen this tactic before, so I started to get suspicious of his actions, but I decided to give him the benefit of a doubt and we waited 5 more minutes for him. After the 5 minutes, he logged back in and started to ask us why we havent kicked him, we told him that we understand that sh*t happens. Just as we thought the dungeon run could continue, the tankj leaves the group. I have seen his name before and checked on Lodestone to confirm that the tank does play on my server. So after the dungeon run, I confronted him and asked what happend. He confessed that he wanted us to kick him, but everytime he came back online, he saw that we didnt kick him out. The reason why he wanted to be kicked: the two DPS players (who were newcomers) did not meet his standards when it came to dealing damage. Because of him, we wasted more then 15 minutes. I called him a twat and reported him.

So in other words, douchbags will be douchbags.

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Originally Posted by Capriana

I seriously do NOT understand people's problem with Brayflox's Longstop.

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If people play poorly, particularly where wandering around is concerned, it can take forever, plus it has four boss fights, where most dungeons have 3. And it has mechanics that make it hard for at least SCH healers (design flaw of no good cure for them at Brayflox level max).

If people wander, like in Stone Vigil and Aurum Vale, it can get really bad fast...especially with a truly new healer who could feel overwhelmed. None of the fights are hard, minus maybe the eft's AE since it can be hard to see and Aiatar's poison AE mechanic? Beyond that, don't wander around, stay on the tank, do your job. Not a tough gig really. If you wanted to clear the place out for loot, yeah...that would take a while because of the side encounters with goblins, the jungle coeurl miniboss, the entire swamp area, etc. You could turn it into a huge pain, but I never have. For early dungeons, I hate Brayflox less than Tam Tara and Cutters, for sure.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

So after the dungeon run, I confronted him and asked what happend. He confessed that he wanted us to kick him, but everytime he came back online, he saw that we didnt kick him out. The reason why he wanted to be kicked: the two DPS players (who were newcomers) did not meet his standards when it came to dealing damage. Because of him, we wasted more then 15 minutes. I called him a twat and reported him.

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yeah he disconnected so he wouldn't get the penalty. He just assumed everyone would have left the instance and it would be over and he would return to the world out of it, but you guys bucked the trend. I commend you for that. :)

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Originally Posted by Laerune

I called him a **** and reported him.

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But you can be reported for that too.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

There are actually FOUR bosses: pelican, 2 drakes, eft and dragon. A half hour slog.

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The first "boss" isn't an actual boss, it's just a glorified trash pull within a designated arena that has some basic mechanics. For comparison, look no further than the Ultima fight in Dun Scaith (formerly the succubus).

Best and only thing to do in that situation is /moonliftdance. Stupid situations require stupid dances.

Well one thing to note is that if your doing a mentor roulette, your just filling in slots for the other people but as a teacher arn't you? By selecting mentor roulette you are basically saying "I will do my best to teach and educate this run" while the other 3 may have just qued up for Satasha NM for the first time. So I feel you should probably get a stricter punishment for abandoning that run, even if its nothing more than the full 90minutes, weather you abandon, "d/c", or get kicked. If its a real emergency, then 90 minutes is a small price. Granted I am also on the same side who would rather not see mentors get any reward but the joy and satisfaction of being able to help, a shiny mount shouldn't be the reward for wanting to help people.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

My crown has a hammer on it, so it sure isn't for helping people with battle classes.

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What happens when they add a hammer class :P