3.1 : Astrologian "adjustments''

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Horrible suggestion. Yeah, let's return AST to their former "glory" where no one wanted them in their parties. :rolleyes:

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The other changes given to AST outside of the potency buff was more than sufficient to put them in line with the healers. Potency change was unneeded as AST already have equivalent baseline heals when you compensate for Sect bonuses.

I'm not saying revert the entire kit - just that aspect of the kit that I personally felt was entirely unneeded.

Alternatively, adjust Sect bonus to be more unique and keep competencies the same.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

The other changes given to AST outside of the potency buff was more than sufficient to put them in line with the healers. Potency change was unneeded as AST already have equivalent baseline heals when you compensate for Sect bonuses.

I'm not saying revert the entire kit - just that aspect of the kit that I personally felt was entirely unneeded.

Alternatively, adjust Sect bonus to be more unique and keep competencies the same.

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I partly agree but it may have been to compensate for the lack of MND buff in a SCH/Astro party. So adding a mnd buff before reverting would be ideal.

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Originally Posted by Staris

I partly agree but it may have been to compensate for the lack of MND buff in a SCH/Astro party. So adding a mnd buff before reverting would be ideal.

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Someone made a suggestion in another thread where party bonus would be dependent on the number of healers you had. So, in a single healer party (4-man dungeons), your team gets a MND bonus. If you have two healers, the second healer would provide a PIE bonus.

I like this idea and it gets around the conundrum of giving any future healer a MND or PIE bonus and "force" some combinations that have MND bonus.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Someone made a suggestion in another thread where party bonus would be dependent on the number of healers you had. So, in a single healer party (4-man dungeons), your team gets a MND bonus. If you have two healers, the second healer would provide a PIE bonus.

I like this idea and it gets around the conundrum of giving any future healer a MND or PIE bonus and "force" some combinations that have MND bonus.

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Or just make Diurnal do mnd and Noct do PIE

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Originally Posted by Staris

Or just make Diurnal do mnd and Noct do PIE

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I have heard that argument before and I do I agree with it. However, this measure to me it's only a stop-gap measure for a much more future impacting scenario when S-E continues to release more healers and have to decide between PIE / MND.

I'm really hoping for changes that put the sects on par with each other, and improves the diversity between AST and WHM skills.

If there was any adjustment I still want to see it would be with CO. It isn't much to look forward to at 60 compared to other jobs. Extending to 10 seconds would be great for the 2 minute cooldown.

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Originally Posted by Staris

Or just make Diurnal do mnd and Noct do PIE

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Yeah, I feel they compensated for this with the last potency increases when AST is replacing a WHM in a raid. Plus since party buffs is tied to class/job (probably that way in-coding) and planning for a future healer jobs to have either MND or PIE.

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Originally Posted by Eul

The Gravity should have some debuff like Holy's Stun or something that makes slow or heavy :/

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i agree with this. A healer AoE should have some sort of special effect, and heavy works well with gravity. it is annoying that we dont get an AoE ability until 52 though. i mean we can cross class blizzard 2 but does any one even use it in PvE that much.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

i agree with this. A healer AoE should have some sort of special effect, and heavy works well with gravity. it is annoying that we dont get an AoE ability until 52 though. i mean we can cross class blizzard 2 but does any one even use it in PvE that much.

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Then we'd have another copy-and-paste skill, and having gravity being slightly better because of cast distance and we don't need anymore of that. AST stun is level 60, and that is fine.

Sorry, do not agree that a piddly 5-second buff duration and a 2 second stun is acceptable for a level 60 ability.