eso weapons vs relic weapons

Did someone say the original Relic base was the former tiers Mythology weapon?
So currently are not poetics the current version of 2.0 mythology? Maybe the base for the new relic could be the i130 magitek weapons?

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Originally Posted by T2teddy

Did someone say the original Relic base was the former tiers Mythology weapon?
So currently are not poetics the current version of 2.0 mythology? Maybe the base for the new relic could be the i130 magitek weapons?

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No, the precursor was some (crafted?) random weapon which you had to slot materia into, you had to spend tomes for upgrade items, not a precursor.

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Originally Posted by Azper

I'm sorry, but what? Some of the original steps in the relic upon release were FAR from a week's worth of casual play. Abysmally low drop rates on Atma, obscene amounts of mythology tomes for the Animus books coupled with the ridiculously long FATE timers back then, grinding light, getting seventy-five alexandrite and (decent) materia melded (successfully)... the list goes on.

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Alexandrite was the exception, sorry. That would easily take a month or longer.

The others weren't that bad though, unless atma RNG hated you.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Alexandrite was the exception, sorry. That would easily take a month or longer.

The others weren't that bad though, unless atma RNG hated you.

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The Zodiac step took me about 90 hours including queue times, that a little over 3 weeks of playing 4 hours a day unless your idea of casual play is 6+ hours...

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Originally Posted by Colorful

No, the precursor was some (crafted?) random weapon which you had to slot materia into, you had to spend tomes for upgrade items, not a precursor.

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To be correct, Gerolt used the weapon with materias in it as craft material for the unfinished relic weapon.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

The Zodiac step took me about 90 hours including queue times, that a little over 3 weeks of playing 4 hours a day unless your idea of casual play is 6+ hours...

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What he mean is maybe that it was fast done for a lucky casual player ^^

I'm sure someone said that it wasn't going to be EX hard to get the relic and I can understand that but if you go back to the initial stage Ifrit, Garuda and Titan HARD with i60-i70 gear (300 myth cap per week meant you might have 1 or 2 pieces of i90 if you wait a few weeks) was NOT easy. It was evidenced by the fact that there was many titan hard runs being sold by FC's that there was enough demand for people to want to be carried on it. Also I believe from most responses over time that it was the most favoured part of the relic quest as it was the least grind and had the most objective approach to the upgrade. I would not be surprised to see something similar in future.

They could easily start the relic with the i210 esoteric weapon since all it would require is a player to spend ESO getting the 200 antiquated piece and then have them run the new 24 man raid for an upgrade piece. The major issue with this is you can't really push the weapon past i210 as relics don't ever outshine final raid weapons until the last patch before the next raid tier. What this means is you would have a 210 piece that would just change into another 210 piece which would be absolutely pointless.

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Originally Posted by Firepower

What this means is you would have a 210 piece that would just change into another 210 piece which would be absolutely pointless.

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I don't know about that, people have been wanting a little horizontal progression for a while now. Maybe it steps sideways into stat reallocation? I mean, the esoterics weapons have the exact same stat spread as the original Relics so who's to say the esoteric weapons aren't the Mythic's "Relic" and "Zenith" stages with the upcoming quest serving as the "Atma" stage. We really don't know so saying anything would be pointless is... pointless.

Seeing how we only have the past to go on.....

If you don't have a ilevel 200 weapon. Eso will be a nice stepping stone as you grind your way threw the requirements needed to get Relic to 200+

Either way, the 200 Eso weapon will help you as you try to obtain the relic.

I have too many roles to gear. I'll wait on the clarity of an announcement for the new relic before deciding if I want an eso weapon or not for my main. It's not like I struggle with duties and I don't do Savage. I suspect they might allow a higher eso cap soon enough.