eso weapons vs relic weapons

[Meow9000]

With the Relic weapons coming in 3.1, is it even worth wasting the esos to get a weapon? I know we don't know the stats or the look of the weapons yet but let's be honest here I'm sure it'll be atleast equal to if not better than the antiquated artifact weapons ilvl wise. It just feels like it would be a huge waste of esos for a main class when you could be getting body pieces. Also this is more about people who don't do savage, atleast not yet, I know you need the weapons for that.

[Alahra]

My guess is the Esoterics weapons will be needed for the relic in some way or another, since they're job-specific, but we probably won't know for sure until we get the patch (since they've never really given us much info on relic stages in advance).

[FoxyAreku]

My guess is the Esoterics weapons will be needed for the relic in some way or another, since they're job-specific, but we probably won't know for sure until we get the patch (since they've never really given us much info on relic stages in advance).

I don't know why people keep spreading this misinformation.
Esoterics will not be related to the relic quest whatsoever. You have to beat savage A4 to even upgrade your eso weapon to 210, they're not gonna require savage lol.

Even if it turns out to be true though, which I highly doubt, I'll probably ragequit. My esoteric weapon is crappy enough, I don't need my relic having the same stats as that thing.

[Alahra]

I don't know why people keep spreading this misinformation.

It's hardly "spreading misinformation" since I said it was "My guess" and that we "probably won't know for sure" until we get 3.1. It's just a hunch I've got since we've generally only had job-specific weapons for relics (with the exception being SCH and now, the new jobs, which have no base classes). Additionally, the first relic line did involve spending Mythology tomes initially (for Zenith), which were the 2.0 equivalent of Esoterics now. My current thought is that we'll use the Esoterics i200 weapon as a base and the "relic" version will be 210 with the stat array chosen (as was the case with Novus). Let me be clear so as not to ruffle any feathers: that's just my best guess as to how it will work at this point but I could be entirely wrong.

[Frederick22]

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There only one mistake with your theory. The esoteric weapon can be upgraded already to ilvl210. On Alexander Savage we have a tome that allow us to upgrade it, like the rest of the AF2 gear and the accesories. So you saing that we will able to upgrade the esoteric weapon to its relic ilvl210 version. It doesnt make much sense.

[Alahra]

It doesnt make much sense.

Presumably, if my hunch is correct, the antiquated esoteric weapon will be used as a base of the Relic/Mythic/Whatever, and there will be a separate i210 weapon that will glow or whatever. They may just add some Latinate suffix to it like they did before to designate it. The fact that there's already an i210 version doesn't mean there can't be yet another that's unlocked through the relic quest at all--it's not as though something prevents them from using the item for two purposes. There were two versions of the i100 Relic weapons as well (both Atma and Animus were i100).

They also displayed a number of the Esoterics weapons when they showcased the new AF gear, so they probably consider them part of the set (just like the original Relics were considered part of the AF set and the Atma weapons were by and large "matched" to the i90 AF+1.) So while it might seem somewhat strange because of the presence of i210 Esoterics weapons to some folks, personally I think there's enough there to highly suggest we'll see them be part of the new questline.

[itti18]

I don't know why people keep spreading this misinformation.
Esoterics will not be related to the relic quest whatsoever. You have to beat savage A4 to even upgrade your eso weapon to 210, they're not gonna require savage lol.

Even if it turns out to be true though, which I highly doubt, I'll probably ragequit. My esoteric weapon is crappy enough, I don't need my relic having the same stats as that thing.

its highly likely that in 3.1 its going to be possible to upgrade eso weapons with loot from the 24 man raid

[FoxyAreku]

its highly likely that in 3.1 its going to be possible to upgrade eso weapons with loot from the 24 man raid

Which is another thing that is highly unlikely to be required for relics. It's kind of a thing to not require you to do a raid of any kind for relic quests. :P

Having to spend 3 weeks worth of esoterics to start a relic would just be stupid, honestly. Especially when that weapon is already upgradeable via other means.