Why is glam quest level 50 and not like 15?

The thing is, the only things worth glamouring are those items you're gonna be using a while.

There's no good looking outfits, regardless of role, especially below 15. Frankly? I'd rather those newbies spend a couple of gil getting better equipment then blowing 20k worth of gil on a single measly glamour. All the good looking outfits? Can't glamour those onto lower level items, rendering this conversation moot.

I don't care what you would rather a low level player who is not yourself spend their gil on. Let people decide for themselves what they spend their gil on. YOU don't think there's anything worth glamouring below 50. Other people do.

Stop trying to control other players.

You're misunderstanding quite a few things. Firstly, I never said anything to control other players. Having a preference is NOT the same as controlling other people. Your ASSUMPTIONS would only hold weight if I said I'd boot any lowbies with a glamour and weak sauce equipment, which I didn't.

No. You're trying to shut down the conversation because you don't think glamouring below 50 is necessary - thus you are trying to control what other people can do. You obviously don't care to glamour below 50. Great. No one would force you. There is zero need to come in here and tell people that they shouldn't want to glamour below 50 because you don't think there's anything worthwhile.

Looking like a walking rainbow in underwear is a rite of passage for a lot of MMORPGs, apparently.
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Originally Posted by Awful

For the most part people who just started playing the game aren't gonna have 20k lying around you'll have like maybe 10-30k if you're lucky by lvl 20.Skipping tiers of gear is fine you can use the lvl 32 brayflox gear till 50 if you wanted it's just for lvling. My point for myself in my own experience with MMOs is just lvl, enjoy the story, the zones, and quests. I don't play a game purely for aesthetics but looking badass and cool I can see how this would make someone go I wish I looked like that! which I can totally relate to however most of the gear that you get at 50 (crafted n what not) are just reskins that you can dye that so in the end it doesn't really matter. Lvling DOH as well first I know a ton of people who do that and again, I can understand as if crafting is your joy in this game i'd say do it up, but for me it's combat classes. Glamour didn't make me stop playing this game or make me feel alone I knew I was getting it just when I had gear Worth glamouring.

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Well, the characters starting the game from scratch aren't /only/ new players. They're also alts of experienced players, whatever their reason to make an alt character (running lock-out raids more than once, having more retainers/storage, experiencing the MSQ again, wanting a different character for RP reasons.... it doesn't matter), and experienced players tend to know just what earns them gil. And I don't remember who it was, but someone commented in a thread similar to this one that they had a friend who'd levelled a crafting class to ~25, and told them they'd just made a few million gil that week (via said crafting). So legitimately rich low-level characters do exist.

Even if they're not rich... Don't you think it should be up to them what they spend their hard-earned gil on? TBH, the excuse that new players/characters don't have a lot of gil, and therefore the glamour system is fine at 50, sounds a bit patronizing to me (not saying that's the intention, but it's how it sounds in my ears). If they want to spend all their money on over-priced glamour prisms off the market board, why should that be any of your business? O.o

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

Letting new accounts glamour stuff like the thav bustier or spring dress is only going to promote RMT in a major way, due to the gil prices involved. Path of least resistance.

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So you mean level 50 characters automatically have enough gil to throw 3 million on one glamour item? Maybe glamour should be a level 60 quest, instead, to avoid as much RMT as possible? Located in an HW area, of course.
Seriously speaking, though... the majority of people, no matter their level, aren't going to resort to RMT. Just because you can glamour things instead of being forced to wear them to look the part doesn't mean you'll automatically buy more level 1/glamour gear. I got myself the level 1 gear I wanted to wear (mostly event/starter/hempen sets, admittedly) way before unlocking glamour on all my alts. Some don't yet have the Plain Long Skirt (or Spring Skirt, either or) until I've saved enough money or crafted it on my main and had a friend mail it over. It's just an annoyance that I can't wear it in combat, though I have from time to time forgotten I had a 'town wear' gearset on when heading out to level. It rarely goes well, sad to say.

I think the biggest RMT promotion going on are the people selling runs of places for the "cheap, cheap price" of a few millions per run.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

The thing is, the only things worth glamouring are those items you're gonna be using a while.

There's no good looking outfits, regardless of role, especially below 15. Frankly? I'd rather those newbies spend a couple of gil getting better equipment then blowing 20k worth of gil on a single measly glamour. All the good looking outfits? Can't glamour those onto lower level items, rendering this conversation moot.

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Your opinion is your opinion. The majority of my glamours tend to contain gear through level 1-15 (foestriker, omnom, and the acolyte boots.... ♥), and the level 32 infantry boots from Brayflox have been part of too many tank glamours to count. Does it mean I don't glamour on higher level gear? Of course not. Does it mean there aren't more options at 50 and higher? Not at all. But to say there are no 'good looking outfits' below 50 is a very subjective thing to say.

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

So you mean level 50 characters automatically have enough gil to throw 3 million on one glamour item?

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You can duo dragonskin maps for a million gil sales per run. For five minutes work. Yes, they should have.

Edit: I'm presuming you mean 60th, since that's the new cap. Glamouring anything at 50th is pointless now, given you'll be changing gear every two days.

I suppose that is true. I never liked the low level gear, but I have been told I have odd tastes in glamour choices. Besides the fact I avoid nudist glamours like the plague.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

The thing is, the only things worth glamouring are those items you're gonna be using a while.

There's no good looking outfits, regardless of role, especially below 15. Frankly? I'd rather those newbies spend a couple of gil getting better equipment then blowing 20k worth of gil on a single measly glamour. All the good looking outfits? Can't glamour those onto lower level items, rendering this conversation moot.

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http://i.imgur.com/UBF3Iqb.png

http://i.imgur.com/IE7LV41.png

Notice something? All of this is below level 15 :P

I think the real question is why does it even have a quest and is not unlocked from the get go?