So about the "warrior of darkness" [spoiler]

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Originally Posted by Sekundessounet

Elidibus to the WoD say "you and yours". So I think we'll see a mirror version of ourselves, and Darklander is just here to represent the Warriors of Darkness, just like Derplander is here to represent the Warriors of Light.

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Or we could see him, the Roe PLD, the Lala WHM, the Mi'qote BRD and the Elezen BLM :p

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

now that you mention it if that's true we will have to rename derplander to lightlander...

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He's Dragoon (like me) now, so we can name him Deadlander.

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Originally Posted by Sekundessounet

He's Dragoon (like me) now, so we can name him Deadlander.

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No... no... DERPlander is still appropriate.

nah i think lightlander is rather catchy...

Final Coil of Bahamut spoilers ahead:

The peoples of Eorzea already have a primal that they called upon on the brink of the calamity. It's Phoenix. That seat is already taken, you cannot be a primal called upon by the peoples of Eorzea.

(non-spoilerish version: Nopz, no chance you're a primal called by the peoples of Eorzea). Also, you've been around since before the calamity. Also, you're not the only one. Ysayle is revealed to be just the same as you just before her horrible death at the hands of the Garleans. Difference being she only had ONE crystal and thus didn't complete the blessing like you did by having all 6.

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

Final Coil of Bahamut spoilers ahead:

The peoples of Eorzea already have a primal that they called upon on the brink of the calamity. It's Phoenix. That seat is already taken, you cannot be a primal called upon by the peoples of Eorzea.

(non-spoilerish version: Nopz, no chance you're a primal called by the peoples of Eorzea). Also, you've been around since before the calamity. Also, you're not the only one. Ysayle is revealed to be just the same as you just before her horrible death at the hands of the Garleans. Difference being she only had ONE crystal and thus didn't complete the blessing like you did by having all 6.

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your comment doesnt changing nothing.

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

your comment doesnt changing nothing.

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No no, he brings up a valid point. Louisoix took the prayers and aether at the Battle of Carteneau and ascended to the status of Primal. That used up all of those prayers as he stayed alive thanks to Bahamut. The Warrior of Light and the Warrior of Darkness couldn't have been summoned with those same prayers then. Also, where would the aether have come from to summon us? And why would Hydaelyn bless us if we were only going to constantly drain her lifeforce?

They do not call upon Phoenix, but the Twelve.

Everyone prayed for Salvation and the Twelve answered by Louisoix's hand. Alas, their power was cut too short and failed.

In a field awash with aether and prayer, the Phoenix was Leveilleur's last attempt and sacrifice to stop Bahamut.

None prayed for Phoenix and none ever will, for it was erased from everyone's memory.

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Originally Posted by Toranja

They do not call upon Phoenix, but the Twelve.

Everyone prayed for Salvation and the Twelve answered by Louisoix's hand. Alas, their power was cut too short and failed.

In a field awash with aether and prayer, the Phoenix was Leveilleur's last attempt and sacrifice to stop Bahamut.

None prayed for Phoenix and none ever will, for it was erased from everyone's memory.

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Ok, so there are a number of problems about what you said there. For one, we don't entirely know that THE Twelve (the gods, not the Primals) answered anything. We do know that Louisoix intended to summon Primal versions of the Twelve, and while he intended to cut it off short of them taking full form, Bahamut wrecked the summoning entirely, and no form of the Twelve (be they gods or Primals) were summoned.

Second, no one prayed to Phoenix, and none will, because no one witnessed it (or those that did died on the battlefield). They prayed for salvation, and for the realm to be saved and THOSE prayers were given shape as Phoenix.

1. You don't need to know what things are to pray for them. No matter what they are, the Twelve answered the call - not only once, but twice that night.

2. You are just repeating what I said. Those prayers coalesced into Phoenix per Leveilleur's choice. You will never see it again to save the realm.