It's only 50 potency weaker than Cure 2, has no cast time and has a chance to crit. It's definitly not dead as an emergency button. Oh, it's also stronger on all non-tanks than it was before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keydah
Edit: As Akashiya mentioned it also gets affected by buffs like Mantra and Illumination now.
3.0 Adjustments to Existing Actions for WHM & SCH
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06-18-2015, 07:37 PMamihavingfunyet
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06-18-2015, 07:42 PMrawker
Fair enough change on Lustrate.
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06-18-2015, 07:52 PMdeosjust did a bit of calculation and its not THAT bad at the endQuote:
Originally Posted by Waterdeep
http://abload.de/img/ffxiv-holy-nerf6fzf1.jpg
sure thats a huge nerf for large pulls but it could be worse -
06-18-2015, 07:54 PMTranquil
In this context, Dissipation also doesn't feel as weak I guess. Now we'll have another strong heal in our repertoire which is no more %-tied, but whose power goes up as our power goes up. Dissipation will give us that +20% healing oomph, which will make for some nasty combinations, whether single-target heals or AOEing. Adloquium + this new Lustrate under a 20% boost (more if you rocked Eos and popped Fey Illumination just before Dissipationing) sounds brutal.
Anyway, the career DPSing SCHs (who I consider myself to be part of) will have to adjust a tiny bit, but it will not be too difficult to plan for a Lustrate in the same way as before, just will have to delay the landing of that spell by that minimal delay of depopping Cleric Stance.
In addition to that, the crit-adjusted potency will have Lustrate be beefy on tanks (as said before me), and it will be stronger than before on non-tanks. Surprising, but not bad changes. -
06-18-2015, 08:10 PMWaterdeep
SCH loses a lot of it's DPS potential, especially in AoE damage compared to WHM. But as far as healing/Shielding goes, it seems like the class is getting a lot more technical. All skills, taken alone, seem to be lackluster. But if you combine them in different way, you get some really great results. Fey Illumination + Disspation + Adlo + Buff spread is a stupidly strong, group wide shield. If you combine it with the new AoE heal you have something close to a group wide Benediction on shorter cooldown.
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06-18-2015, 08:38 PMtjwIt definitely could be worse, but it isn't because of one little nifty skill they put in; Assize. Even using 20 mobs as an example, Assize will hit for 300 potency per enemy, meaning 6000. Assuming the same cast time and everything, Holy will have to be used 4 times before the total potency of 2.5 overtakes the new potency. (16000 vs 15200).Quote:
Originally Posted by deos
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06-18-2015, 08:45 PMdeos300 potency, but 90 sec cd. also, you can either use it for healing OR for dmg (with cleric stance), on that crazy cd... im not sure if im gonna be a fan of this >_>Quote:
Originally Posted by tjw
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06-18-2015, 08:48 PMtjwI see it used both ways. In trash and dungeons, I'll definitely use it more for it's DPS qualities, since 300 AoE nuke is VERY powerful.Quote:
Originally Posted by deos
But in progression and raids, and hard bosses? I'll use it for it's healing purposes as well as it's MP regain. So it can be used both ways.
Also, 90 seconds isn't long. 1.5 Divine Seals cool down. It's not a very long cooldown considering its use. -
06-18-2015, 08:52 PMdeostrue, but long enough to (normally) only beeing able to use it once per trash pullQuote:
Originally Posted by tjw
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06-18-2015, 09:02 PMtjwAnd really that's all it needs. Unless you're some super WHM, the most I've ever Holy-ed in a trash pull was 6-8 times, and even that's pushing it. I did an extensive post in the general discussion boards, but with the new rotations of including Aero III and Assize, the difference on a typical trash mob pull of 6-9 mobs will become minimal.Quote:
Originally Posted by deos