Lootmaster: The Greatest Abuse tool.

I would say don't join those groups.... but actually, I expect the PF to fill with those groups, come HW, on top of the usual "know everything backwards at 10 times the normal speed or else we'll hunt down your entire city" ones. :/ I mean, let me be wrong, but that's my initial suspicion.

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Originally Posted by reillyblair

they could always just do their default answer of disagreement of play style so wont get involved

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You must have had a lazy GM or something
FINAL FANTASY XIV respect individual player’s unique play style. However, GM may take action to players whose play style prevents other player’s game play.

I think if ppl wanted to make a real big stink about someone taking all drops, they can call it a
Scam

In-game scams are defined as any inappropriate actions meant to defraud a fellow player with the intent to take in-game items or other possessions from them.

Looks like if I'm joining pony runs I'm avoiding loot mastered runs.

Enough ML douchebaggery in wow. Thanks.

Funny how all these horror stories from WoW never happened to me or anyone I know of during my many years of it over many different servers. I can think of hearing maybe one or two cases bout it. Masterloot abuse in WoW was rarer than rare mount drops.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan94

A lot of people keep responding with, "If you don't like the loot rules, don't join the group." That's not really a rational response. It can and will be abused. There are a lot of statics that are a man or two short and use the DF to fill out. Many of them will abuse the mechanic so the DF players don't get anything.

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No... if you don't want to risk being the 8th man joining a static group, then still DON'T JOIN
Also... DF players don't get anything? This won't be a DF rule lol

Come on people, think before posting

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

I think it is a horrible idea to have this as a static choice.

I think having the option is good, but I think the potential abuse and victims from it will heavily outweigh any potential good that comes.

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You can report loot ninja's and GM's will give those players warnings. Breaking pre-made party rules is very reportable, since it counts as a form of disruption.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

Funny how all these horror stories from WoW never happened to me or anyone I know of during my many years of it over many different servers. I can think of hearing maybe one or two cases bout it. Masterloot abuse in WoW was rarer than rare mount drops.

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You must never have Cross realm pugged then.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

Scumbags develop a bad reputation pretty fast (on small servers, anyway) so abusers may find themselves lonely if they are repeat offenders.

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The exact issue is the fact that people on various servers are queued and matched with people on other servers. Just because I know some jerk that stole items doesn't mean we're even on the same server

To all the people who are worried about having to kiss up to their fc leader now if they ever want to get a drop - why are you in that kind of fc anyway? I can, without any doubt say that my fc mates would never abuse the system on fellow fc mates. If your first thought is that your fc is gonna rob you, I seriously wonder why you are with these people in the first place o.O

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Originally Posted by Atoli

To all the people who are worried about having to kiss up to their fc leader now if they ever want to get a drop - why are you in that kind of fc anyway? I can, without any doubt say that my fc mates would never abuse the system on fellow fc mates. If your first thought is that your fc is gonna rob you, I seriously wonder why you are with these people in the first place o.O

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huh? ,dont think ppl are talking about FC parties here , ppl are worried about Party finder.