"I Was Out of That!" (Some Life Lessons)

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Originally Posted by Edenholt

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I believe they actually have said they are working on it. I don't remember for when, though.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

I don't know what the exact delay is like (for me) right now, but it's definately not as little as 0.1~
I didnt watch castbars much myself, as a healer. The delay is very noticable, both when moving out of aoes and when casting. It's possible to clip heals in a way I've never seen possible anywhere else, unless I had massive ping.


I'll have to try that. Would be kind of weird if graphics could effect it, but who knows.

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The way the in built delay works is thats basically on top of your actual lag, not the entirety of it. So for example if its 0.1 seconds of delay between server pings, and your ms to server was 200, you'd get 0.3 seconds of delay, and on old one at 0.333 you'd have over half a sec delay.

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Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm

To be fair there's a world of difference between Brayflox HM, even when it was first released, and fights like Titan EX, T9, etc.

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Oh, of course, but that still doesn't change the fact that people should be able to try content (in DF) without first having to watch a 20 minute youtube video. Do you truly enjoy having all fights spelled out for you before you even get to try? For more annoying fights, I do typically try and read a little something about boss strategies, but that's just my own preference.

Well done OP!

I marvel at the fact that you made a thread declaring that making excuses for poor game play brings nothing of value to a group, only to be responded by a plethora of excuses.

Brilliantly executed.

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Originally Posted by Whiston

Well done OP!

I marvel at the fact that you made a thread declaring that making excuses for poor game play brings nothing of value to a group, only to be responded by a plethora of excuses.

Brilliantly executed.

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"These things shouldn't happen ever."
>Those things do happen
Replies point out that things happen all the time.

"Excuses!"

Flawless argument.

I've cleared and am currently farming t10-t13 and all the ex primals.

However I completely and totally understand that latency/lag/server delay exists. Granted, server delay is not as bad as it use to be. Back in 2.0 the devs acknowledged that it was a pretty big problem, and somehow shortened the delay by x amount.

When I first set foot in 2.0 Titan HM I was on (very terrible) wireless. I got hit by EVERYTHING. I thought I was the worst, most scrubbiest player on this planet. PUGS mocked me, swore at me, etc.

Later on a guildie told me that FF14 didn't do well with wireless, so I plugged in my Ethernet cable. When I went back into titan HM I didn't get hit once. I didn't clear it right away, but after spending some time finding a good group I cleared it without incident.

tl;dr I don't get mad at people who say they lagged.

OP is a 100% right. Way too many players wanna blame everything and everyone but themselves for being terrible, especially at an easy game.

Really sad

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

... You do realize there is an actual delay between client and actually moving?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0bMV6BVJSU

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This video is over a year old.

Also, lag happens. I understand when people get hit by something because they lagged. Sometimes people get hit by things and then just pretend it's lag, but that's often not the case. Sometimes when there's a bunch of people using my internet connection, I lag tremendously - at this point I realize that all I'm doing is holding back the group until I get that sorted, so instead of just complaining every time I get hit by something, I leave. There's no point in making the group suffer because your internet is currently sucking or sucks in general for whatever reason.

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Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm

I believe people when they say they were out but that's not really the point. The point is that if they keep dying, for whatever reason, it's going to hurt the group's ability to clear. If you know your lag is this bad, what are you hoping for when you queue for something like Titan EX? For the other 7 people to be good enough to carry you? I've arranged PF groups for players who couldn't beat Titan EX due to lag where 7 other players joined KNOWING it was a carry and being OKAY with that. It's going to be hard enough to find 7 other players in DF who can clear Titan even if you don't have these types of problems but the players have to be even better than that if they have to compensate immediately for being down a player. It's really better to have a creator mentality ("What can I do to help this situation?") than a victim one ("OMG this lag, it's unfair, I'm never going to win!")

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I went crazy trying to fix my problem. What I could not stomach was knowing the fight inside out, know it was coming, moving the moment the graphic appeared, being well out the zone and dying. I watched videos, searched the internet. Improved my gear to nearly I120. Now I am failing because people quit, don't know anything or show up up with minimal gear. It is frustrating.

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Or instead of judging another player on the internet, realize that things like lag exist and may make things difficult for people other then you.

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Pretty much that.

All I saw from the OP was a long tirade about RL problems that pretty much is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

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If it really is the lag, do everyone a favor and don't queue until your connection improves.

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Unfortunately, there's been several occasions over my time playing this game where I wasn't lagging... until I entered the DF. Kinda hard to anticipate things like that.

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It's funny how many people will link those exact 'year old' videos knowing that the positional server response has improved by a huge margin since then.

Those aren't proof, it's about time to stop linking them.

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People still link them because the problem still exists.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

This video is over a year old.

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Did you watch it? That WHM was new to the fight or had lame reaction time. I could tell he was going to get zonked by every mechanic before it even connected.

The boss AI follows a strict pattern that you can anticipate and counter. Your anal sphincter should be clenching and your movement key primed before the mechanic begins. That guy was lingering in the AoE far too long; he needs to work on his sphincter clenches.