Thanks for nothing SE on 3 star crafting!

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Actually you dont need good/excellent to use BB on 11 stacks for 65-75% as long as you can buff the BB normally, which you should have left CP to do anyway while fishing for good/excellent.

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What are u talking about.

I'm talking about the 3star token to unlock 4star book. No way u can get to above 60% if bb on normal... Buffed or not buffed... without some serious tot luck and probably an excellent while you were hasty touching.

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Originally Posted by Nashred

You both have good points. The more you understand the skills and the better your rotation and reactions to fails will improve your chances, No doubt .. But to me RNG just plays a little too much into crafting.
I think it is because the percentages seem off... Hasty with steady hand II fails way more than 20 percent of the time, at least it does for me. I have talked to others too that feel the percentage feels way higher.
Its when you get that 3 or 4 hasty touches that fail in a row that makes things frustrating.

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The way I notice it, SE's RNG has a certain pattern where if you immediately attempt Hasty Touch after a failed Hasty Touch, you will most likely get another failed Hasty Touch (More than 50% of the time). And vice versa.
So, when I get a failed Hasty touch, I wait 5-10 seconds before doing the next Hasty Touch, and if I get a successful Hasty Touch, I will rapidly do Hasty touch until it failed.

Might be a superstition. But it works for me. <.<

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Originally Posted by Nashred

I think it is because the percentages seem off... Hasty with steady hand II fails way more than 20 percent of the time, at least it does for me. I have talked to others too that feel the percentage feels way higher.
Its when you get that 3 or 4 hasty touches that fail in a row that makes things frustrating.

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From my experience, the success rates for hasty with SHII really do seem to be 80% over a large sample size. Sometimes, it would fail 4-5 times, others 1 time or not at all. It fails maybe twice on average for me (assuming all touches are hasty touches).

If you're using hasty touch 10 times, you should expect two misses on average, and if you're using rapid synthesis and/or pbp w/out SH, you'd expect 2-3 misses throughout your craft. Sometimes you do get a lot of "lucky streaks" and "unlucky streaks", however, but I feel everything averages out in the end.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Actually you dont need good/excellent to use BB on 11 stacks for 65-75% as long as you can buff the BB normally, which you should have left CP to do anyway while fishing for good/excellent.

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Hmm, a buffed BB at IQ11 gives me around 36% unless I've either landed a hasty or basic touch on an excellent and/or landed more than 10 touches. However, I've never buffed Byregot's with both innovation and ingenuityII, so maybe that would explain the difference.

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

What are u talking about.

I'm talking about the 3star token to unlock 4star book. No way u can get to above 60% if bb on normal... Buffed or not buffed... without some serious tot luck and probably an excellent while you were hasty touching.

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I am talking about the 3* tokens and i unlocked all my crafts on the day 4* was released, so I'm pretty sure I have a fair idea of what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

What are u talking about.

I'm talking about the 3star token to unlock 4star book. No way u can get to above 60% if bb on normal... Buffed or not buffed... without some serious tot luck and probably an excellent while you were hasty touching.

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I can't say for sure how that can be done, but there are a lot of different approaches that you can try. Perhaps using control food instead of CP food is viable.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

I am talking about the 3* tokens and i unlocked all my crafts on the day 4* was released, so I'm pretty sure I have a fair idea of what I'm talking about.

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with base control 407, sorry its not possible to get a "buffed" BB to go above 60% or let alone reach 50% if it lands on normal. again. you need some serious RNG in your side prior to landing BB.

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

with base control 407, sorry its not possible to get a "buffed" BB to go above 60% or let alone reach 50% if it lands on normal. again. you need some serious RNG in your side prior to landing BB.

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Just because you cannot do something, does not mean it is impossible.

It's not serious RNG, atleast 25% of my tokens were finished with BB on normal condition, ending at 60%+

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Just because you cannot do something, does not mean it is impossible.

It's not serious RNG, atleast 25% of my tokens were finished with BB on normal condition, ending at 60%+

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:confused: stop throwing random comments without proof. 3star tokens are heavily reliant on rng


http://link.ffxivcrafter.com/?id=cbdjs


A buffed bb on normal with 11iq and all hasty touches landing on normal give u 20% quality.

You need rng to gain more quality. It's impossible for bb landing on normal to reach 60%

Base control 407.

Maybe someone had a godly run like this

http://www.ffxivcrafter.com/crafting...tor&guid=cbdj1