Tanks selling their bodies to Rogues/Ninjas...

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

You are using the need of someone else, thats not the same as agreeing with their free will.
While it is true that you are not holding the gun, you make use of their predicament.

Its like sending e-mail spam with telling them to pay money: someone is paying and you made profit...
why do you think this is rendered illegal in real life? snowball effect
Same as selling trash to old ladys: oh sorry they are paying me - its their free will to pay me!

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Example: A static of 8 players where the 8th cant be online at that day - getting the 8th random and let him/her pay.
The random helps the static to even get into the dungeon, so it is a win-win for both, to add payment it means to exploit the situation!
You dont even give him/her any kind of service, you get paid for something you dont have to do anything...

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1. Don't you "You" me. When did I say I have sold my Tank? I have not.
2. You are crazy.

I dont understand what the big fuss is about? People dont need to hire the tank or healer for dungeons, they can always wait or do other stuff, for example: Craft/Gather, spam FATE's, do their hunting/challenge log, Levemetes and grind mobs. I think alot of you guys are forgetting that there is no incentive for tanks or healers (unless daily roullete or relic reborn) to do pre level 50 dungeons. Expecting tanks or healers to queue for a dungeon that they dont need, just because you need them, does not make them selfish, instead it makes you selfish.

I am leveling a Rogue right now and queue's range from 70 minutes to 120 minutes. Do what any other player does, spend that time leveling other classes or ask a friend or a free company member to tank or heal a dungeon for you. The way I see it, there is a demand for tanks and healers and they are offering a service for a fee, you have the choice to take it or leave it, complaining on the forum will not get you anywhere.

PS: I am leveling all my crafting and gathering, leveling those while waiting in duty finder is amazing.

I think it's a great idea. It's a win-win situation for both parties. So long as they don't get greedy and demand stupid amounts of gil.

Here's what I pay

/l Anyone want to help me with a dungeon/hest queue?
*invited*
*run dungeon/hest*
/l Thanks for helping <3

I don't agree with selling dungeon runs but I can't really fault them for being opportunistic. At least it's just going to those who want to pay for someone to queue with them, and not like early days of 2.0 where the titan win sellers were going into other groups and purposely ruining them to make those people feel compelled to buy their win. But I also find it hard to imagine people don't have at least a few people in an fc or ls willing to run with them. Granted, if you are going to ask people to help you out a bunch, I hope those getting the help would return the favour in the future, or have tanked/healed for their friends a bunch in the past.

So selling runs for ROG/NIN so that they can get in a dungeon is wrong, but selling wins for Coil runs is perfectly ok. Sounds reasonable to me.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

So selling runs for ROG/NIN so that they can get in a dungeon is wrong, but selling wins for Coil runs is perfectly ok. Sounds reasonable to me.

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Having both a part of the game is just a reality. It's up to the purchaser to make that decision. Personally I'd just run fates or get friends to go with me in a party. I'm not paying someone to help me get into a dungeon. This race to 50 by some is a bit much.