Please patch Turn 2 enrage

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Originally Posted by remidi

They have already said its a viable strat. Deal with it and move on. There is more than one way to do an encounter. Don't be mad because someone figured out a super easy way to do so.


*Dead....whiny....horse

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I am not mad, except at you calling me a dead whiny horse. I will most likely use the exploit until it is changed. All I am saying is you asked since when does enraged mean game ender. I said since always. Its a fact, the one most people are using to complain about the strat. I have played a lot of MMO, and up until this encounter, as far as I have seen, enrage does mean wipe.

As for "they have said its a viable strat", they say alot of things are working as intended and then do a fix. I am just saying do not be surprised when the mechanics change and you come back here being a whiny dead horse. Your words, not mine. Personally, I would be laughing my ass off if I went in one day all set for the enrage strat, and we go annihilated. Because its a game, and I would find it hilarious. Then I would come here, and laugh at all the posts exactly opposite of the OP point, wanting it back.

Please also fix speed running in all dungeons
Please also fix speed running Garuda
Please also fix mob locking out in WP and other dungeons.

Because you all exploit this, and it should be fixed if enrage is fixed.

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Originally Posted by Jilse

Do you really take the time not only to shoot down others but to insult them at the same time?

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The only people that are getting shot down are people that think they are special snowflakes. If you feel that way, its your problem.

Rage mode has its own mechanics. The fact that they're easier to overcome doesn't mean they're not there; players have simply figured out how to do it efficiently. Honestly, even fighting Turn 2 using the non-rage method isn't very hard, you just need people who can coordinate together.

It's no more an exploit than overwhelming bosses by throwing overly geared parties at them.

It is definitely a strategy that does not count as an exploit, but I believe it was never intended to be that easy. I give the stamp of shame to whoever resorts to this method without beating it the normal way first.

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Originally Posted by remidi

Sadly you are all very sensitive and when someone is honest with you you get offended and act defensively. Your problem is you are too sensitive, you think your T2 kills are special.....

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I'm not the one acting defensively. lol. I was never rude to you. You jumped down my throat all angry-like when I posted my opinion.

Enrage substitutes a flatter learning curve for a somewhat harder one in the long run. Once you learn to manage multiple things at once, you will clear Turn Two the old way every time. Enrage will always require you to adhere to a more gear dependent and time consuming strategy. Someone above asked how many people who clear Turn Two with enrage strat would be able to clear Turn Two with the old fashioned strategy. I think a better question would be how many people manage to clear Turn Five after doing only enrage strat on Turn Two. If you look at Turns One and Two, they seem more like basic training for Turn Five than anything else. The need to manage multiple things at once is, if anything, even more intense on Twintania than it is on ADS. If your only goal is to clear through Turn Four and get some loot, then enrage away. If your normal intent is to progress through Turn Five clears, then you are trading that flattened learning curve in Turn Two for an enhanced one in Turn Five.

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Originally Posted by Jilse

I will most likely use the exploit until it is changed.

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It's not an exploit, per se. It is doing exactly what it was designed to do. It just wasn't tuned quite to where players think it ought to have been. It would not surprise me in the slightest if they adjusted it upwards, but at the same time, it's almost impossible for them to do anything but make it an instant wipe button because of how much healing 3-4 overgeared healers can deliver.

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Originally Posted by Elim

I'm not the one acting defensively. lol. I was never rude to you. You jumped down my throat all angry-like when I posted my opinion.

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I didn't jump down anything. You can't handle someone being honest and direct with you.

Nothing wrong with it.
A static/decent group will clear T2 regardless of strategy used.
Move on.