Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

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10-09-2011, 11:12 PM
Mindx3

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Originally Posted by Vaer

You won't ever have a capped character anyway. Gear gets outdated. It's the same thing. Gear is replaced, then you have to grind for a new set, then a new set, new materia, more grind. Just because you don't like the journey, doesn't mean everyone is the same. Grinding is what MMOs are about.

Besides, you don't HAVE to level everything. That's why you play with other people. They can supplement your crafts or your jobs. If you need to be able to do everything yourself, that is a choice you have.

The stupidity in this thread is overwhelming, i never said i dont like the journey, but the journey itself is useless when it comes to end game and only that last level counts ...if this shit gets fixed so be it...if its left alone so be it...if it gets a bit more balanced so be it...im still going to hit cap and so is everyone else. Im out.
10-09-2011, 11:14 PM
Frein

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Originally Posted by Mindx3

The stupidity in this thread is overwhelming, i never said i dont like the journey, but the journey itself is useless when it comes to end game and only that last level counts ...if this shit gets fixed so be it...if its left alone so be it...if it gets a bit more balanced so be it...im still going to hit cap and so is everyone else. Im out.

Why do you even play MMOs if that's how you feel? FFXI had terrible end game but some of the best in-between journey material of any MMO. I played it for years with only a very minor interest in end game content.
10-09-2011, 11:24 PM
Mindx3

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Originally Posted by Frein

Why do you even play MMOs if that's how you feel? FFXI had terrible end game but some of the best in-between journey material of any MMO. I played it for years with only a very minor interest in end game content.

The best part of the journey being finally killing a lizard or a fly after 10 hours of waiting in order to have good gear to level up and HIT CAP. Are you saying you never hit cap? I only managed 57 on thf after a year or so and i quit for WoW because leveling in that game was rediculously stupid (although i loved the combat system). My friend is afraid of playing FFXIV because he is afraid that it will take him forever to be able to do end game. FFXI scarred him for life.
10-09-2011, 11:24 PM
Vahzl

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Originally Posted by Issac

And to tell you the truth, I -would- pay for this game right now. Just not with this BS going on in it.

So you wouldn't pay for this game right now then.
10-09-2011, 11:27 PM
AmyRae

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Maybe you don't read or maybe you don't understand it broken due to the fact that you get the full amoumt of exp for someone killing a high level mob for you. Listen to my words "YOSHI-P SAID YOU WONT GET THAT MUCH EXP IF SOMEONE KILL A HIGHER MOB FOR YOU!!!!!!!!"

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

"YOSHI-P said that you wont get much exp for someone killing mobs for you that are higher level then you but right now people are getting full EXP or are you blind can't read that part? it broken it most be fix and they should never allow powerlevel in a game there other ways of doing it exp band,link account and so on.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Once again yoshi-p said that but he said you wont get a lot of exp for your friend killing a high level mob for you which is not happening which is broken so you clam down and learn how to read.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

I don't know how many time i have to say this yoshi- p said that when a high level kill a high level mob for a low level you wont get much exp so it's broken and over 90+ people agree that pl break a game you could deal with it on other way.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Enough to understand it's broken and don't you people even read? how many time i have to say it? Yoshi-p said that you wont get much exp from a friend killing a higher level mob for you be then again people are getting 300-1k

As much as you like to accuse people of not reading, I don't think you actually follow your own advice. Here's what Yoshida actually said just before the patch was released:

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It depends on what you consider power leveling. For example, if my friend and I were playing completely different games. I've already reached the level 50 cap, and then I invite my friend. Of course I want to do end game content like Ifrit with him, but I invited him, and he wants to play too, and we are really good friends so I want to help him out.

I can help him out with my level 50 character when he's being attacked by a monster. Of course it's going to lower the XP a bit, but I'd like to make it a bit loose and not too strict. I just want to make sure friends are able to help each other if they want to challenge content together by filling the gap.

The whole idea here is to let people use their level 50 status to help get their friends to 50 so they can join them in endgame faster. Yes, he did say the XP would be lowered, but obviously not to the extent that you seem to be claiming it should be. You've penciled in a whole lot of opinion into what you've claimed Yoshida has said about it, and it's not even close.

The intention of powerleveling is pretty clear to anyone who can read.
10-09-2011, 11:30 PM
Issac

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

As much as you like to accuse people of not reading, I don't think you actually follow your own advice. Here's what Yoshida actually said just before the patch was released:

The whole idea here is to let people use their level 50 status to help get their friends to 50 so they can join them in endgame faster. Yes, he did say the XP would be lowered, but obviously not to the extent that you seem to be claiming it should be. You've penciled in a whole lot of opinion into what you've claimed Yoshida has said about it, and it's not even close.

The intention of powerleveling is pretty clear to anyone who can read.

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No, I think Zen is pretty spot on with the bit about people not reading the thread. People like you.
Either that, or I think you're just blatantly ignoring it.

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Originally Posted by Crica

I already addressed this in my post as well.

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Originally Posted by Circa

For something to be exploited, it would have to be used in a way that was not intended by the creator/owner. Yoshi-P is not the creator of FFXIV, but he is the person who decides if something is allowed or not in FFXIV, so he is in charge of if something is being used in a way that was not intended. IF Yoshi-P decided that the current form of PL in FFXIV is being used the way HE intended, then everyone else is free to like or not like Yoshi-P's version of PLing and then choose to PL or not, but that does not mean anyone is exploiting PLing if they choose to PL.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

you should never get 1-50 mad quick even yoshi-p said that people should at least take 3half months to get there first high level.

Please note the above quote. How much direct weight are we giving what Yoshi-P says? Yoshi is the poster-child right now, and Public Relations is a tricky job. Yes he is the producer, but he is also the voice of FFXIV. That's a tough job, to speak to an angry mob on a variety of topics.

So stop using what he said in the live interview as a decree of law. Powerleveling is, in fact, outrageous and broken. It needs to be fixed.
10-09-2011, 11:31 PM
Zenaku

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

As much as you like to accuse people of not reading, I don't think you actually follow your own advice. Here's what Yoshida actually said just before the patch was released:

The whole idea here is to let people use their level 50 status to help get their friends to 50 so they can join them in endgame faster. Yes, he did say the XP would be lowered, but obviously not to the extent that you seem to be claiming it should be. You've penciled in a whole lot of opinion into what you've claimed Yoshida has said about it, and it's not even close.

The intention of powerleveling is pretty clear to anyone who can read.

Once again it should not be that much EXP 2# how people are doing is taking there friends to high mob camp they go afk and they AOE everything they have to worry about RMT. I'm sorry matter how you pictrue yoshi-p is out of his mind he just going to get a lot of ppl mad later that there noting to do once they get done with everything and get bored.
10-09-2011, 11:54 PM
BishopSaxton

Oh Gawd...
10-09-2011, 11:56 PM
Issac

As of this post, 21,000 views, 101 thumbs, and 588 replies. We're pretty well set for Monday to get a rep's attention.

Thanks to everyone, your input and efforts are much appreciated. Let's hope it gets fixed. :)
10-10-2011, 12:08 AM
AmyRae

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Once again it should not be that much EXP 2# how people are doing is taking there friends to high mob camp they go afk and they AOE everything they have to worry about RMT. I'm sorry matter how you pictrue yoshi-p is out of his mind he just going to get a lot of ppl mad later that there noting to do once they get done with everything and get bored.

But the entire point is to use power leveling to get your friend to endgame quickly so they don't get bored / feel left out wallowing at low levels by themselves.

However, you don't have to be powerleveled. If the journey to 50 is more your thing, then take the time to enjoy it. There's no pressure to get powerleveled at all unless it's for the express intended purpose which is to get into endgame content faster.

So, to sum up, if you care about endgame, you can get there faster through powerleveling. If you care about leveling at your own pace without any help, then don't get powerleveled and enjoy the existing low level content at your leisure. If one of these options isn't fun for you, then don't do it. It's a game. Have fun with it.

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