o.O Overkill on the crafting Dumb down?

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Originally Posted by Wynn

This is great, Bayohne. It sounds awesome actually, but can we address the removal of parts? I mean, a lot of craft classes are going to get completely screwed by the blanket removal of those grind recipes. Just off the top of my head there is ARM, TAN, and WVR that are going to have a VERY hard time leveling now. How will this be addressed?

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WVR wont be affected, their main grind to 50 was actualy cloth(using that cloth became too complex to be worth the time)

Blacksmith, Armoror, Leatherworker though...
yeah they did alot of parts to grind

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Originally Posted by Wynn

This is great, Bayohne. It sounds awesome actually, but can we address the removal of parts? I mean, a lot of craft classes are going to get completely screwed by the blanket removal of those grind recipes. Just off the top of my head there is ARM, CRP, TAN, and WVR that are going to have a VERY hard time leveling now. How will this be addressed?

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Speaking as a CRP I think the only really easy level grind recipes were the wooden masks that probably aren't being changed. I mostly stick to leves, though.

I'm willing to bet that certain gear recipes will become simple enough to grind on. At the very least simplifying the materials will make gathering a horde of them together for extended grinding a lot more palatable when it doesn't take a lot of extra steps and a large chunk of your inventory.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

WVR wont be affected, their main grind to 50 was actualy cloth(using that cloth became too complex to be worth the time)

Blacksmith, Armoror, Leatherworker though...
yeah they did alot of parts to grind

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I'm only like 27 WVR right now myself, but I actually find myself grinding on the clothing pieces because cloth is either too high or gives to little sp before the next cloth can be made. That's my experience anyway. Like right now, I'm grinding canvas but that's not going to be too good exp very soon, actually isn't now, but there really isn't anything else for me to do but finished items at this range. I certainly won't be able to do velveteen for at least 5 levels, maybe 6. The bridge recipe for me would be to buy some velveteen and make inner cowls until I could get to the point where I can make velveteen cloth but that will not be an option if parts are removed.

Do you have any suggestion as to what I could grind on for a 30 WVR that isn't a part (since they won't be available) or a finished item?

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Originally Posted by Wynn

I'm only like 27 WVR right now myself, but I actually find myself grinding on the clothing pieces because cloth is either too high or gives to little sp before the next cloth can be made. That's my experience anyway. Like right now, I'm grinding canvas but that's not going to be too good exp very soon, actually isn't now, but there really isn't anything else for me to do but finished items at this range. I certainly won't be able to do velveteen for at least 5 levels, maybe 6. The bridge recipe for me would be to buy some velveteen and make inner cowls until I could get to the point where I can make velveteen cloth but that will not be an option if parts are removed.

Do you have any suggestion as to what I could grind on for a 30 WVR that isn't a part (since they won't be available) or a finished item?

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your right, the sp does start to suck, but the other peices arent worth it either as i said

i did canvas at 20, velvet at 29, linen at 36(yarn) then linen cloth at low 40s all the way to 50

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

your right, the sp does start to suck, but the other peices arent worth it either as i said

i did canvas at 20, velvet at 29, linen at 36(yarn) then linen cloth at low 40s all the way to 50

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hmm ok I'll try velveteen when I turn 29 and see how it goes. If that works, that's one class issue negated. :) Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Wynn

hmm ok I'll try velveteen when I turn 29 and see how it goes. If that works, that's one class issue negated. :) Thanks!

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just a warning, itl be a hard synth, but it gets easier over time(and its not like cotton bolls are hard to get to make the yarn for it)

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Originally Posted by Esk

Abolishment of Parts from Synthesis - Very Bad
Revisions to Materials and Intermediary Materials - Good
Removal of Secondary Skill Requirements - Helpful
Removal of Crafting Facility and Treatise Requirements - Good in a way
Simplified Color Customization - Best Part!

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Imho
Abolishment of Parts from Synthesis - Very Good
Revisions to Materials and Intermediary Materials - Good
Removal of Secondary Skill Requirements - Helpful - Excellent
Removal of Crafting Facility and Treatise Requirements - OMG finally!
Simplified Color Customization - Very Good

I played for months crafting and only got frustrated... When I read the current plan on crafting system rework I finally felt the excitement about this aspect of the game

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Originally Posted by Lionheart

Imho
Abolishment of Parts from Synthesis - Very Good
Revisions to Materials and Intermediary Materials - Good
Removal of Secondary Skill Requirements - Helpful - Excellent
Removal of Crafting Facility and Treatise Requirements - OMG finally!
Simplified Color Customization - Very Good

I played for months crafting and only got frustrated... When I read the current plan on crafting system rework I finally felt the excitement about this aspect of the game

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Unfortunately the tards complaining about it will only ruin it for those of us who love the simplification.

How is it difficult when crafting is largely random BS? Or are they actually going to change how you craft so it's fun and you have control over it?

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Originally Posted by Rhix

Unfortunately the tards complaining about it will only ruin it for those of us who love the simplification.

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An the sad little idiots like you only prove your idiots by insulting people just cos they have a different view point.
For a lot of the crafter's in this post you saying yes plz to the changes will ruin it for people who like some depth to a game.

And please don't bring a constructive post down to your level, I totally disagree with Lionheart on 2 parts, but at least he has a view point and the ability to put it across without being an ass...