New summoner is unacceptable

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Originally Posted by Roda

And yup, just as I feared, all this continuous 1 spam is causing hand strain...

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Just put your 3 abilities on a few different keys/buttons each. ;)

not a smn main and i dont know about lvl 90 smn

but smn seems a bit... shallow at 80. i sorted my bars and hopped into alliance raid. orbonne yesterday, the third nier raid today.... but i really wondered about smn. is that it? i looked at my bars but i used every skill on it, i searched for more skills, but i didnt found any. aside from aetherflow which has nothing to do with any other skills there is nothing else, is there? its just summoning an egi/primal pressing a few times one and the same button before repeating it. is that it or did i overlook something? cant help but wonder what did i overlook?

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Originally Posted by Roda

And yup, just as I feared, all this continuous 1 spam is causing hand strain...

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hi, healer main here. you get used to it.

also i like new summoner, way more interesting than pressing dots every 30 seconds. my only complaint is the two skills relying on carbuncle (radiant aegis and searing light) having to take that one gcd in order to use them before opening with bahamut is really annoying, i'd much prefer having it as a self-cast skill, rather than reliant on carby. carby is pretty much required for everything else.

If you're only pressing three buttons: You're doing it wrong and you have no idea how to play the class.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

If you're only pressing three buttons: You're doing it wrong and you have no idea how to play the class.

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It's nearly as shallow as a healer's dps "rotation" with the mobility of a physrange. Current SMN is absolutely pitiful.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

If you're only pressing three buttons: You're doing it wrong and you have no idea how to play the class.

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1, T, X, F, F1, 1/F4, 5, 1, B, 1, B, 1, 1, 1, E, 2, F, 2, F, 2, F, 2, F, G, F, 2, 2, 2, 2, R, V, 2, 2, F, F, 1, 1, X, 5

That's the entire level 90 rotation translated to my personal keybinds and button presses, give or take several more 1's (aka, Astral Impulse's or Ruin 3 filler spam). I'm sitting there spamming 3 buttons over and over for a huge portion of the rotation, Gemshine (2), Astral Flow (F) and Ruin/Astral Impulse (1). Once you're done with all those cooldowns that are all 60 seconds long and are all used during Bahamut/Phoenix you're back to 3 button spam for 60 seconds until they're back. Looks barely discernable from a WHM, Astro, Sage and SCH dps rotation.

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Originally Posted by zcrash970

a lot of people just hate the class design

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And a lot of people love it. Looking at the numbers, I'd say the lovers win by a huge margin. Never seen so many summoners around, and not only levelling.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

If you're only pressing three buttons: You're doing it wrong and you have no idea how to play the class.

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There's no such thing as playing smn wrong at this point. Even gathering nodes have more depth.

What I can't get over and makes me laugh is that when i'm running content with a Summoner, I often see the Carbuncle with his ass towards the boss... xD
I used to play Summoner a lot, and when I will level it(like last now...) that would really annoy me :p

I hate to break it to you, but they ABSOLUTELY DO think this is the way to design jobs now. Come on over to the healer forums...we've been spamming 1-button dps for 2 years now. It really sucks!
If you're angry and want someone to blame--look at Yoshi P. This design philosophy is his brain-child.