Can you please Ease Up on Atma now?

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Sorry but just because we had to endure the ridiculous atma grind, does not validate that it must always remain.

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Not like you are doing difficult content to obtain it.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Not like you are doing difficult content to obtain it.

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And?

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

Everyone is so certain that ninja's relic will be the same Atma path. Wouldn't it be epic if they changed it to be something completely different?

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Actually, awhile ago, Yoshida made a comment recommending that you grind for the Atma you need for the Ninja relic before 2.4.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

Actually, awhile ago, Yoshida made a comment recommending that you grind for the Atma you need for the Ninja relic before 2.4.

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The comment in question:

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Originally Posted by Massively

Will players moving over to playing the Ninja need to re-do the entire Relic/Zodiac line from the beginning?

Yes. They should probably start collecting their Atma now.

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http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/06...sses-and-more/

It's not going to be something different.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

And?

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Meaning you are not exactly beating Turn 7 to try to get this item, you are just hitting low level mobs in FATE's.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Meaning you are not exactly beating Turn 7 to try to get this item, you are just hitting low level mobs in FATE's.

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What SDaemon is saying is that FATEs are inherently not "hard" nor "easy", but a simple numbers game, which gives a varied output to all players. In terms of actual difficulty, it's easy and requires close to no brain power at all.

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Originally Posted by ZReport

What SDaemon is saying is that FATEs are inherently not "hard" nor "easy", but a simple numbers game, which gives a varied output to all players. In terms of actual difficulty, it's easy and requires close to no brain power at all.

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Don't get me wrong, atma is crappy in it's own right, and wish it did not exist to begin with, but there isn't a reason for SE to adjust it unless the Zodiac quests carry over to the expansion. Which might not happen. SE hasn't been direct, but there has been hints towards new weapons in the expansion.

Yeah I agree. It's been long due to up the drop rate for atmas at least. It's honestly way too time consuming especially when you have multiple characters & classes at the Atma point. Novus I'd say can still wait but Atma definitely needs to be eased up come 2.4. Not everyone has so much free time in their lives that they can do that much grinding for that. I mean they say they're planning to make the game for all sorts of people but everything still seems like it's hardcore player oriented, and even for hardcore players, this is rediculous.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Meaning you are not exactly beating Turn 7 to try to get this item, you are just hitting low level mobs in FATE's.

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So if they did turn 7 with the rng drop rate as is now, with only 1 chance per week to try and collect 12 of them. You would be alright with a change in drop chance? Attaching difficulty on top of insane rng is preferable for you? Trying to find out what difficult content has to do with this really.

It's not at all about the monsters. It's more about how much time it takes up and how low it's rate is. It's time it takes up doesn't hold up to how much it's worth. What I would suggest would be high level fates like Odin Behemoth & Svara that would occasionally drop atmas that you can only get 1 in the atma location per week like ST & SCoB stuff