Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

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Originally Posted by Axidrain

id say theres something wrong with the players when they cant even figure out a fight

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Maybe but they are abundant in the game. On the forums everyone sounds like leet players but in game it sure doesn't seem that way. I have no issues with the fight (already have my relics) it's just bad when one person can ruin the fight for everyone or goofs up a certain rotation and it's over.

Glad to hear it's changed Htiome. It's not about difficulty rather I find it to be cheap difficulty. I love difficult content and I want the game to get even more challenging. I just don't like cheesy cheap difficulty. Then there's the whole phase and rotation stuff that's abundant in this game which I bet 90 percent of the players have to read and memorize online strats to get through it.

After finally beating Titan and Ifrit today, I've to wonder why SE put Titan before Ifrit. Ifrit seemed to be a lot easier on everyone involved.

I think Titan could be made a little bit less unforgiving. A tiny bit more time between Weight of the Land showing up and dealing damage to make it more bearable with some latency, or maybe slightly decreasing their radius. A little bit of change in that would still keep the fight hard enough, without making it too frustrating for people who don't have a perfect internet connection (and their group mates).

Fair enough. I wonder if this is a generational thing. I'm so used to playing games that punish you for even the most tiny of errors.

Here's a list:

Contra for the NES (I remember playing this as a child with a friend. We never really made it past the first level more often than not)
Mario (same concept: memorize or die)
Same with some Mega Man games
Demon Souls
Ninja Gaiden on the PS2
Battletoads
Cave Story's hell level

Feck: have you guys played Tetris?!

Maybe, since I've already dealt with the frustration in those games, that Titan's harsh penalties just seem kind of bland. I grew up playing games with harsher penalties.

I think Cave Story's hell level is a very accurate analogy to Titan Ex.

Was it cheap difficulty? Isn't that subjective? Didn't you stay away from games like this if you didn't like this type of punishing difficulty? If so, why aren't you staying away from Titan?

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Originally Posted by Hitome

Was it cheap difficulty? Isn't that subjective? Didn't you stay away from games like this if you didn't like this type of punishing difficulty? If so, why aren't you staying away from Titan?

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Because SE lock me out of all the other End Game content I want to play that gives me progression.

Because this patch consists of 2 ilvl 60 dungeons, 2 ilvl 80 dungeons and 3 ilvl 90 end level dungeons. And of cause CT, that FF14 seems not to want me to do. Being it locks out any progression extremely fast.

So you mean that as a paying customer, I need to wait for 37.5% of the patch 2.1 content to become available to me @ 6 months time?

Some more the ilvl 90 content is the only content that brings me progression. Ever other content is a step back.

Best is my extreme run hinges on a stupid Duty that I already explain why it is bad mechanics so many times. Do not need to explain again.

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Originally Posted by Hitome

Contra for the NES (I remember playing this as a child with a friend. We never really made it past the first level more often than not)
Mario (same concept: memorize or die)
Same with some Mega Man games
Demon Souls
Ninja Gaiden on the PS2
Battletoads
Cave Story's hell level

Feck: have you guys played Tetris?!

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I don't know about Battletoads and Cave Story, but those other games punished you for your own mistakes and your own mistakes only, not the mistakes of yourself and 7 other people combined.

I still don't get where the cheap mechanics come from. All the Titan mechanics are known throughout the fight they follow the same order and you can dodge all of them. It's not like Titan goes around and pushes players of the platform just because he feels like it with no castbar/warning etc. Than people had all reasons to complain.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

I don't know about Battletoads and Cave Story, but those other games punished you for your own mistakes and your own mistakes only, not the mistakes of yourself and 7 other people combined.

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You are playing in a group the peformance of each individual should reflect the outcome of a battle. Don't see anything wrong with that.

Those games didn't rely on having a fiber internet connection.

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Originally Posted by Hitome

Fair enough. I wonder if this is a generational thing. I'm so used to playing games that punish you for even the most tiny of errors.

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Me too, I played FFXI pre abyssea. Tiny errors are ok in single player games but the margin should be more reasonable in 8 man content don't you think?

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Originally Posted by Dazd

Those games didn't rely on having a fiber internet connection.

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Actually is 8 Internet Connections.

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Originally Posted by Dazd

Those games didn't rely on having a fiber internet connection.

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Every (competetive) mulitplayer relies on a fast connection.