Can you please Ease Up on Atma now?

What is with the masochists in this thread and edgy people demanding others be punished with 200+ fates per atma even if it had RNG removed?

Whether we argue here or not, they are going to adjust this content someday, likely around expansion. What is with the fervent thuggery in here? Think critically for even a moment and the answer should be obvious to all- you dont need to argue semantics like some high school debate club.

Its not a question of "SHOULD?" it be adjusted, or "WILL?" it be adjusted.

Its more of a question of "When?" and "How?". If you act like its not coming someday then you're just being contumacious to save face.

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Originally Posted by Amused

People here seem to be so blinded by their sense of entitlement that they completely neglect that Relic is not content that was made for them. They also neglect that Atma being tied to FATEs was intentionally done to help older players help new players with leveling by having more people roaming the world doing FATEs.

It's sad because these people crying for SE to nerf it are trying to imply that people in favor of the current system are being "selfish" or whatever but totally ignore how self-absorbed their own motives are.

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Your wrong and you know it if.
If you Remember a time before ATMA what key areas where Fate Grinds for Levels
Here they are and guess what NO ATMA

South Shroud - NO ATMA
Eastern La Noscea - NO ATMA
Coerthas Central Highlands - NO ATMA
Northern Thanagan - NO ATMA

These were key areas for level grinding and yet no ATMA drops at any of these locations.

South Shroud
Eastern La Noscea
Coerthas Central Highlands
Northern Thanagan

I spent hours of actual fun Level grinding in these areas. These areas would actually help new players level.

The ATMA portion needs a buff or a rework Oh and by the way the Relics are not rare Zenith is practically a standard now.

BTW guys, I love this discussion, but I highly suggest you to drop a question regarding Atma in this thread (Q&A for the next Live Letter):

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28General%29

I already asked when they are going to fix that feature so it can be fair for everyone.
Do the same, please.
Let developers know we still want to put an end on this monstruosity.

Thank you. :)

Well, I've been grinding FATES for the last 4+ hours, so I'm developing the need to gripe a little. Not a single Atma yet, and the sense of progression is diminishing rapidly. I really hope the devs never, ever, ever, ever implement anything like this ever, ever again.

+1000000 to this thread :)

I'm at about 60-70 fates per atma on average.. Fastest one was after 3 fates, slowest one well over 200 fates. I don't even mind the drop rate, but more often than not these days, few people are doing fates, so not only do fates take long to finish, but they also respawn fairly slow.

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Originally Posted by Marylain

BTW guys, I love this discussion, but I highly suggest you to drop a question regarding Atma in this thread (Q&A for the next Live Letter):

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I'd suggest not actually doing that, since the guidelines for the thread itself asks you not to ask the same question someone else has asked, but to Like the existing question(s) instead. And it's easy to find the existing Atma questions. Just go to that thread, click on "Search Thread" in the upper right, and enter "Atma." There's already a dozen there.

Then please, like all the questions regarding Atmas (currently there are already a bunch).
Thanks! :)

I just want to remind everyone about the pure ownage Hik0 gave Amused.

Well done sir, well done.

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Originally Posted by Hik0

lol, that's not what you used to say:
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This gave me a genuine chuckle. I KNEW there were people out there who did this. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a LOT of commenters saying atma is fine and people need to stop whining have some comments like this buried in the forums.

Gold, absolute gold lol!.