Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Lmcgyver

No, I was just sharing two interesting things I've picked up over several runs in there. I never said anything about what someone should do, or had to do (the bit about "so if it really does bug you, you can cleanse it for them" was with regards to "ugh... it just annoyed me").

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You have to remember that the mentioned player will then "depend" of others to do it for them. They will never ever move until one person talk to them in voice chat and yell at them. Why wait until then. That player could just learn to dodge and avoid beinc called out and then come to the forums to say how they were treated.

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Originally Posted by Lmcgyver

I will just mention, two little-known facts about that last fight: 1) the poison stacks aren't applied if the person has a shield up (stoneskin, adloquium), and 2) if someone without poison picks up a potion from a coffer, it'll cure someone else with the poison (so if it really does bug you, you can cleanse it for them).

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Ah so if I try to get stoneskin on everyone or most of us before he casts the poisons that should prevent them? Good to know, thank you :) When you say someone else picks up a potion though... so that'll depend on someone having stoneskin or something first so they don't get the poison, then they pick up a potion anyway and that would cure them? i'm hoping that I never need to do that but i'd rather do something for someone than have to overly worry that they're getting stack after stack, I have dubuff ocd! lol

It's really nice to not have to deal with the poisons because of shields. Just as it is with players not dealing with their own poison buff, it is similarly annoying when the healer never cleanses the slow/whatever debuff you get when he aims at a particular player. With all the time in the world as I am about to take a large hit, many times I see the healer not do anything about it or decide they will just cure II/equivalent on me or themselves.

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Originally Posted by JumperX

You have to remember that the mentioned player will then "depend" of others to do it for them. They will never ever move until one person talk to them in voice chat and yell at them. Why wait until then. That player could just learn to dodge and avoid beinc called out and then come to the forums to say how they were treated.

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Unfortunately I doubt he really realised he was doing anything wrong and I didn't have the time or the inclination to offer further advice that run (feeling down a lot at the moment so don't want to risk offering advice to have someone snap at me) so without being told and me just healing him through it...yeah >.< I just hope that whoever does chose to inform him doesn't get shouted at or get the "I play how I want!" response.

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Originally Posted by Acantha

When you say someone else picks up a potion though... so that'll depend on someone having stoneskin or something first so they don't get the poison, then they pick up a potion anyway and that would cure them?

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Basically I noticed that, if someone who didn't have the poison (for example, the poison was nullified by a shield, or you've already cured your poison with another potion) went to a coffer with a potion, the effect bounced to someone who did have the poison and cured them instead; otherwise, it pops up "No effect" if no one has poison.

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Originally Posted by Lmcgyver

Basically I noticed that, if someone who didn't have the poison (for example, the poison was nullified by a shield, or you've already cured your poison with another potion) went to a coffer with a potion, the effect bounced to someone who did have the poison and cured them instead; otherwise, it pops up "No effect" if no one has poison.

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Oh cool :) that was nice of them (squeenix) :P thank you for sharing that, it's crazy how much I still need to learn >.<

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Originally Posted by Mysterysword

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Simply said if you are a lvl player in AV not killing the fruit before it hatches will give around 3 to 4k exp each of them if you kill before it gives only 400 per fruit so yeah drk was right you were wrong and didnt respect the spirit of the levelling roulette you basically killed like 100k exp for that player that needed levelling.

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Originally Posted by Mysterysword

Us DPS liked killing the morbol fruits, because we like finishing our stuff fast.

Then this DRK, out of the blue, calls the NIN "a fucking asshole", because apparently, we're killing these fruits on purpose, "just coz u dont get exp ur ruining for ppl trying lvl". Right.

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First. The DRK is being a dick if he just out of the blue said that. Full stop, he's a dick.

But did you consider that you just took away near 3000 exp on those fruits? By letting them become morbols, you get around 3000 exp versus 300 exp. You can make them grow and still be fast. Hit them once or have proximity aggro, kill the other stuff, kill the seedlings. So there is a reason why he was upset but that does not give him an excuse to be a dick.

I would have approached it as "pls let the fruit become seedlings for the exp". If you kept doing it, then you are being a bit of an ass but no harm done.

While lots of people dislike AV, don't make it out as if you did anyone a big blessing by being in whatever you queued for.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

Simply said if you are a lvl player in AV not killing the fruit before it hatches will give around 3 to 4k exp each of them if you kill before it gives only 400 per fruit so yeah drk was right you were wrong and didnt respect the spirit of the levelling roulette you basically killed like 100k exp for that player that needed levelling.

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Right, and that certainly justifies him calling us names and insulting us when we're the whole reason that run went by so fast in the first place. Of course.

See, what you clearly haven't considered is that, with the time we saved that player, he could've gone on another Aurum Vale run afterwards, and gotten way more EXP than from the seedlings those fruits spawn.

Also, people who can't even be bothered to be polite when asking for something, won't bother asking anything at all, and only type something out to insult others, have no right to lecture others about respect or consideration.

Not to mention, the AST didn't even say anything about the fruits, and he was the lvl. 48 player. This DRK was lvl. 58. We would've been fine with killing the fruits, if they'd just bothered to ask, and be even semi-polite about it, but they didn't. DPS aren't there to be the telepathic slaves of the tank and healer.

Finally, I'm not asking for comms or even recognition for how fast that run went. I couldn't care less about that. But it looks like it's just really too much just to ask not to be called names and cussed at?

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Originally Posted by Seryne

Other person: "Tahnking is a side job for me, I main a healer and my tanks never use cooldowns.

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It was at that moment I realized even if I started an argument I wasn't going to win.