Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

After this post I am cancelling my sub. I will wait for the future of this game. It's weird for a company to leave cheating as a sanctioned thing. It's one thing if it isn't against ToS like blizzard does for WoW, but to have it against ToS and fully enabled without punishment even when people are openly admitting to using addons and breaking ToS on the official forums.

For people to be shaming players by bringing up their parses to use against them on the official forums as addon users, when the people they are shaming just play the game as a fun rpg because they know that it's not currently a legitimate experience in regards to fair play... It's just weird and toxic. I don't think this community should exist as is. I don't want to support this company as is, and I don't feel good being in this world anymore.

It was just an RPG to me, but now it's become something tainted after the omega controversy bringing how bad the problem actually is to light. Something has to change.

"Xeno's honest thoughts on the cheating drama" watch this video on youtube without feeling sick. It's a test to see how honest you are.

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Adding to what Rilifane said, I have to ask. Why does it matter to you if someone enjoys parsing and chasing a leaderboard provided they aren't being a jerk about it? Their enjoyment of the game literally does nothing to impact yours. In fact, if this is just a "chill RPG" for you and you never set foot in Savage then you're unlikely to even bump into someone such as myself who spends a lot of time in PF.

Put simply, people enjoy the game for different reasons. You're essentially demanding I play the way you approve. Which, ironically, sounds far more toxic than a parser ever was.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Adding to what Rilifane said, I have to ask. Why does it matter to you if someone enjoys parsing and chasing a leaderboard provided they aren't being a jerk about it? Their enjoyment of the game literally does nothing to impact yours. In fact, if this is just a "chill RPG" for you and you never set foot in Savage then you're unlikely to even bump into someone such as myself who spends a lot of time in PF.

Put simply, people enjoy the game for different reasons. You're essentially demanding I play the way you approve. Which, ironically, sounds far more toxic than a parser ever was.

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Because people are actively jerks about it and will always be? I am demanding you follow the ToS. It's not about my approval, it's about following the terms of service you legally agreed to when you signed up to play this game. People like you ruin the game for people like me.

On top of that, savage content is the most appealing RPG fantasy for me that exists in this game. Because of the state of addons being normalized, I am not going to fit in in that scene. For what reason? Because you're bad at mechanics and can't do things without cheating.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

After this post I am cancelling my sub. I will wait for the future of this game. It's weird for a company to leave cheating as a sanctioned thing. It's one thing if it isn't against ToS like blizzard does for WoW, but to have it against ToS and fully enabled without punishment even when people are openly admitting to using addons and breaking ToS on the official forums.

For people to be shaming players by bringing up their parses to use against them on the official forums as addon users, when the people they are shaming just play the game as a fun rpg because they know that it's not currently a legitimate experience in regards to fair play... It's just weird and toxic. I don't think this community should exist as is. I don't want to support this company as is, and I don't feel good being in this world anymore.

It was just an RPG to me, but now it's become something tainted after the omega controversy bringing how bad the problem actually is to light. Something has to change.

"Xeno's honest thoughts on the cheating drama" watch this video on youtube without feeling sick. It's a test to see how honest you are.

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For someone who said they're rather calm, you really aren't acting like it. This is basically you having no chill just because one group decided to cheat.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Because people are actively jerks about it and will always be? I am demanding you follow the ToS. It's not about my approval, it's about following the terms of service you legally agreed to when you signed up to play this game. People like you ruin the game for people like me.

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People like you threw insults at other people for wanting to parse their own characters to improve, and denied that disabilities exist. Something SE itself acknowledged and is trying to implement the tools that enable us to get the same type of information slowly into the game so that they don't have to resort to third party tools.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

For someone who said they're rather calm, you really aren't acting like it. This is basically you having no chill just because one group decided to cheat.



People like you threw insults at other people for wanting to parse their own characters to improve, and denied that disabilities exist. Something SE itself acknowledged and is trying to implement the tools that enable us to get the same type of information slowly into the game so that they don't have to resort to third party tools.

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Maybe you should spend less time defending cheating and more time getting good at the game. Sounds like a personal problem.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

On top of that, savage content is the most appealing RPG fantasy for me that exists in this game. Because of the state of addons being normalized, I am not going to fit in in that scene. For what reason? Because you're bad at mechanics and can't do things without cheating.

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Your whole victim act isn't going to get much traction if you're never able to stop casually insulting people for no reason.

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The game isn't fun to play with people like you being enabled.

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Who's "people like you"? I don't support cheating. Seems like you suffer from a bad case of strawmanning and black and white thinking.

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I'm not a victim

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For someone who's "not the victim", you sure write a lot of paragraph about how mean people are with you.

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Also lol, do you struggle with writing? Is it hard work to form words about something you care about? Just curious since you seem to correlate amount of words with amount of hurt feelings.

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English is not my first language so if I don't consider it worth it, I don't bother. But your entire post is such an amazing self-own I don't even have to say anything. I'll just passively watch yourself unveil the depths of your stupidity.

You're doing everyone who thinks your pov is irrational such a huge favor.

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Originally Posted by Kazhar

Your whole victim act isn't going to get much traction if you're never able to stop casually insulting people for no reason.

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Don't care, didn't ask. ToS is what it is. You self-reporting yourself is doing me all the favours I need.

Also what am I being made into a victim over? The game isn't fun to play with people like you being enabled. I'm not a victim, I just cancelled my sub to a video game. Square enix is the victim here.

I am at my post limit for the day, but I never used the words "chill rpg" I said "it's just a fun rpg to me". Fun is engaging in savage content to me. I am not a chill gamer. I will never value being chill in this life either because that's for cringelords who think they are cool.

People like firemage directly insulting me for a parse that I didn't sign up for, yeah that's cringe. I am proud of my savage clears because they were done honestly and for the clear, not to parse, but to clear the challenging content. The fact that that little cringelord banbait tried to dismiss my accomplishment is all that needs to be said.

There was also no avoiding hearing about the controversy surrounding the omega clear as an mmo player that goes on the internet. It has made waves and it is not going to be taken back under the radar. You have been exposed and now the days of cheating are numbered because quite honestly it's disgusting.

On top of all this, I am not offended. Just disappointed and let down. There is a huge difference. One is related to my emotions, one is related to my judgment of others. I don't feel down because I look down upon you. It's the opposite. I feel good about being on the side of righteousness. You are the defensive victim who is under attack here. Not me.

Also lol, do you struggle with writing? Is it hard work to form words about something you care about? Just curious since you seem to correlate amount of words with amount of hurt feelings.

"I have disabilities so I am exempt from following the rules". No, no, no, you are not.

It's not a superiority complex either, I am superior to you because I don't use addons. That's just reality. Complex implies an internal issue, like thinking your progress means anything even though you've cheated. You are the one with a complex, not me.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

I'm not just here for that reason by choice, I am here for that reason because the game has been tainted by players who break the tos in a belligerent way. I'd like to engage in the game further, just not like this. You people make it unappealing to people like me who value fair play.

You can deflect and feign innocence all you want, but you know what you're doing to this game.

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You chose to pay attention to the whole TOP world first race drama when you clearly don't do that type of content and have no horse in the race.
You chose to feel personally offended by people using addons like ACT when you neither meet them ingame nor are they being a jerk to you about it.
This was by your choice. If you were really just here for a "chill RPG" then you could've done what several other people that are just here for a chill RPG are doing and just do what you enjoy and not participate in any discussions surrounding this topic. Because someone chasing parses or using Cactbot in Savage you're never stepping foot into does not affect your enjoyment of MSQ, treasure maps or whatever else you're doing.

I agree with Forte, this just sounds like a thinly veiled attempt to demand from everyone to play the exact same way you want them to or it "taints" the experience for you.
No, it doesn't.
Someone modding their glam or hairstyles doesn't affect my enjoyment as long as they don't tell me that I look like a pile of trash because I'm not doing the same.
Someone chasing parses in Savage doesn't affect you as long as they don't walk up to you and tell you you're trash for not doing the same.

You chose to get offended by this and now you're playing the victim by telling that you have to cancel your sub because others that you never met "tainted" it for you.

Why there is so much people against?

I've never seen such a self-own, self-destruction series of posts in my life. Lol. Lmao even. This is comedy hour at it's finest. What a wild thing to wake up to lol

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

I've never seen such a self-own, self-destruction series of posts in my life. Lol. Lmao even. This is comedy hour at it's finest. What a wild thing to wake up to lol

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Normally I would assume that some of these people are trolling, but I really don't know anymore. They have me legitimately stumped.

Side note: I'm still here and haven't been banned. Whodathunkit?