SE is always SE... Rage inside... :/

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Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder

Well, why can't the crowd calm themselves? I mean, why should SE have to hold anyone's hand through the alpha process? I'd like to think that the majority of us here are adults. Surely we all knew that some would be getting into alpha and some would not. I just think that some people here need to put on their big boy pants and deal with it. Besides, there's always beta to look forward to.

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I laughed really hard at the bold-ed part... Not because its a silly idea but because its.. just not going to happen XD

SE doesnt need to hold everyone's hand but there is difference between holding someones hand and having transparency through great communication. Never should a business feel above communicating to its consumer - thankfully Yoshi largely agrees with this and has already posted a little in the Japanese forums addressing Alpha rage. Rein is translating it now.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

You should learn to have a little fun :/

And you didnt simply state.. you told me I made no sense. Awkward really, since my post was saying SE should make sense as there is no sense available.

And yes railing against isnt going to do much - they can only handle so many. I'm not suggesting SE open the flood gates to their server so it can crash, I was just suggesting easy ways they could have calmed more of the crowd.

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I dunno, Sho.

It seems to me that even if SE were to spell out how they picked people that it wouldn't stop people from then ranting about the specifics. They might complain that SE should be testing older computers instead of Win 8 powerhouses because those computers are less likely to have trouble. Or flip it and say that they should not focus on anything XP or older because the company who made them no longer supports them. I could go on and on with examples off the top of my head that people could gripe about when what they really would be complaining about is nothing more than this: "they didn't pick me" <insert frownie face>

But forget all that because the bottom line is SE shouldn't have to calm the masses. People should be big enough to act like adults on their own.

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Originally Posted by Dannythm

If I recall correctly, this phase of the alpha will get more invites, because it's a stress test on several zones (they are aiming to have max server capacity, around 5k players on 2 servers, that's 10k), and also they want to test EU/US latency and whatnot, so I think during this week there's a chance more invites are sent.

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Uhhhhh.... As I understand it they are using ALL servers in ALL regions at the present time. That is room for many thousands of players... however they are sending invites out on a trickle basis over the duration of the test. So the current invites are only to a few of the players they expect to invite. It is weird the way SE is doing this test. It is not a true Alpha test. They are sticking in parts of Beta as they go along and testing game-play and other features. This is actually more like a Beta test. BTW Yoshi said they will give just about everyone a chance to play. I know this sounds like a contradiction when long time players do not get invites, but I think SE wants to maintain credibility over the hiatus.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I laughed really hard at the bold-ed part... Not because its a silly idea but because its.. just not going to happen XD

SE doesnt need to hold everyone's hand but there is difference between holding someones hand and having transparency through great communication. Never should a business feel above communicating to its consumer - thankfully Yoshi largely agrees with this and has already posted a little in the Japanese forums addressing Alpha rage. Rein is translating it now.

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Sounds like Yoshi had to step in and calm down a lot of people throwing a temper tantrum, like an adult having to step in and soothe the hurt feelings of a room full of crying toddlers. lol I guess it's good business practice to wipe the tears of some of the most butthurt of consumers, but it's sad it has to come to that.

This game needs to work on a global scale for an audience of new and old players, even if you didn't receive an invite right now, who cares? The selection has been made, you will eventually make it in at some point, just be happy that we are going to get input from all walks of life, hardcore oldschool XIV players or not, that's what we need for this game to succeed. Multiple tester prospectives. Your "i've been here from the start" experience will benefit the testing input much differently than someone who just started or hasn't even played, but both will be very valuable information, you'll both get the test, just have patience.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

I dunno, Sho.

It seems to me that even if SE were to spell out how they picked people that it wouldn't stop people from then ranting about the specifics. They might complain that SE should be testing older computers instead of Win 8 powerhouses because those computers are less likely to have trouble. Or flip it and say that they should not focus on anything XP or older because the company who made them no longer supports them. I could go on and on with examples off the top of my head that people could gripe about when what they really would be complaining about is nothing more than this: "they didn't pick me" <insert frownie face>

But forget all that because the bottom line is SE shouldn't have to calm the masses. People should be big enough to act like adults on their own.

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Yeah its possible SE could try to wipe everyone's nose for them and they would still be pissed XD. Working with the people can both be infuriating and very pleasing.

Wish SE let me put in all my computers though lol I've got a powerhouse a medium spec and a laptop.. I gots your hardware just let me in XD lol

Random wish aside if with small work comes a greater calm then it is worth it. But I guess we could argue that the crowd is insatiable or not.

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Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder

Sounds like Yoshi had to step in and calm down a lot of people throwing a temper tantrum, like an adult having to step in and soothe the hurt feelings of a room full of crying toddlers. lol I guess it's good business practice to wipe the tears of some of the most butthurt of consumers, but it's sad it has to come to that.

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Pretty much :P. But writing a small letter really isn't that costly so I think overall its time well spent.

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Originally Posted by Kallivis

They will select a batch of results tailored around certain answers such as x processors ranged to y processors and ignore other ones for the time being, but those who are selected between x and y processors are completely random. Just because you gave the "right answers" doesn't mean you'll get in. They don't look at accounts, they don't do any of that.

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Yep. Also, because they wouldn't allow you to update your data, many of the system specs they have in the applications is erroneous. I was running my system on low resolution so I could read my emails better and entered that as my screen resolution.... lol... What I entered was below what they specified as recommended screen resolution. And that wasn't the only spec I messed up in the application.... lol. So, I am not surprised I did not get an invite.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

thankfully Yoshi largely agrees with this and has already posted a little in the Japanese forums addressing Alpha rage. Rein is translating it now.

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Really? Because I think it's pretty embarrassing. And the saddest part is that you think he "agrees" because people cried and whined until they got their way. That's not an agreement, that's someone finally stepping in to be the adult when the other person can't be.

And the funny thing is, all the AlphaBabies want to get in soooo badly soooo they an do sooo much testing to make a great game (I'm sure). Yet now this guy has to jump on the forums and add this bullshit to his plate at the same time? Way to fucking go.

Blah blah blah? Yes, blah blah blabiddy blah..
Feel like I'm watching an old episode of Charlie Brown and the teacher is talking..

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Originally Posted by RudyFails

Really? Because I think it's pretty embarrassing. And the saddest part is that you think he "agrees" because people cried and whined until they got their way. That's not an agreement, that's someone finally stepping in to be the adult when the other person can't be.

And the funny thing is, all the AlphaBabies want to get in soooo badly soooo they an do sooo much testing to make a great game (I'm sure). Yet now this guy has to jump on the forums and add this bullshit to his plate at the same time? Way to fucking go.

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Either you trollin or you missed my point. I think Yoshi agrees that talking to the player base is important - and he shows it by doing it even though he doesnt need to. Seriously you cant think that is embarrassing.