How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

@MiniTyra

thx for your reply, the new rotation sounds a bit difficult, think I'll wait for dervy's vid whenever that's up XD

And my 2nd question was like, let's say I want to compare weps, how do I calculate which wep is better?

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Originally Posted by Erys

Ello guys, tried A1S with pf group.
1600 something on faust, no food no pot, only AST. Cleared
1018 on oppressor, same. No clear. I was assigned Opp 0.5 and this was my most dps uptime try, got prey'd and alarum in first phase. Apparently me and the blm downed 0.5 quicker than smn and other goon on Opp, numbers might have been a bit higher for us two.
Thoughts on this? Is it any good?

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Might want to check out the media section on the front page. There's a link "what should my DPS be?" that may be able to help answer your question. Of course there are always variables to consider too, but at least its a start.

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Originally Posted by Ninjah2r

@MiniTyra

thx for your reply, the new rotation sounds a bit difficult, think I'll wait for dervy's vid whenever that's up XD

And my 2nd question was like, let's say I want to compare weps, how do I calculate which wep is better?

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Maybe Dervy is haunting the forums.

Anyway, you just multiply the stats by the stat weights per weapon, then add them up.

Weapon with higher weight = better weapon, uusally.

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Originally Posted by Erys

Failure after first jump or before. 1018 is my deeps on first phase

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DPS plummets when the boss jumps so to get better feedback we need to know if your 1018 was before first jump or after. If it was before, your numbers are a bit low with ilevel 204, if it was after the first jump, that number is pretty good for it being your first time.

At full i210 I hover at around 1500+ before that first jump, group comp is normally me (DRG), BRD, MNK, BLM, WHM, SCH but I've been clearing A1S since week one. Keep practicing and I'm sure you'll improve those numbers. Knowledge on the encounter helps tremendously so keep at it.

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Originally Posted by MiniTyra

Maybe Dervy is haunting the forums.

Anyway, you just multiply the stats by the stat weights per weapon, then add them up.

Weapon with higher weight = better weapon, uusally.

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alright thanks dear lala :D

dervy, where are you D:

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Originally Posted by Zeviand

Numbers I likey

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It was before first jump. Let's say I didn't trust our second healer and runned away for the prey and just waited away from the party with second wind and foresight on hand XD
The saddest part is that I was top, most of the tries. This one I got topped by smn, tho.

Once we get our definitive party and proggress is being made and a strat in common the numbers should rise out of coordination and less chaos in the battlefield. I hope so.

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Originally Posted by Erys

It was before first jump. Let's say I didn't trust our second healer and runned away for the prey and just waited away from the party with second wind and foresight on hand XD
The saddest part is that I was top, most of the tries. This one I got topped by smn, tho.

Once we get our definitive party and proggress is being made and a strat in common the numbers should rise out of coordination and less chaos in the battlefield. I hope so.

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That makes no sense. Why would you run away when you have prey? Panic is the biggest contribution to DPS loss.

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Originally Posted by MiniTyra

That makes no sense. Why would you run away when you have prey? Panic is the biggest contribution to DPS loss.

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I know, but sadly I mostly held accountable for myself and didn't want unnecessary dmg on some players that probably wouldn't mitigate or heal themselves. BLM, SMN, SCH and I were premade and I know they are capable. We were there just to soak mechanics into our brains and see what we can and can't do.

I'm that kind of player that doesn't trust randoms and is better safe than sorry. Once we get our group going, I know I can relay on all of my mates.

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Originally Posted by Erys

I know, but sadly I mostly held accountable for myself and didn't want unnecessary dmg on some players that probably wouldn't mitigate or heal themselves. BLM, SMN, SCH and I were premade and I know they are capable. We were there just to soak mechanics into our brains and see what we can and can't do.

I'm that kind of player that doesn't trust randoms and is better safe than sorry. Once we get our group going, I know I can relay on all of my mates.

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A better way to deal with Prey instead of running away is to activate Keen Flurry and Blood Bath. You will alleviate the healer stress a LOT. Unless you thought Prey impact was an AoE.

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Originally Posted by Erys

I know, but sadly I mostly held accountable for myself and didn't want unnecessary dmg on some players that probably wouldn't mitigate or heal themselves. BLM, SMN, SCH and I were premade and I know they are capable. We were there just to soak mechanics into our brains and see what we can and can't do.

I'm that kind of player that doesn't trust randoms and is better safe than sorry. Once we get our group going, I know I can relay on all of my mates.

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The Hydrothermal Missile mechanic in A1 (normal AND savage) is a single-target attack that hits multiple times in succession. That's it. It's a strict healer mechanic. If you want to help the healers, just use Keen Flurry, Foresight, Bloodbath, and/or Second Wind, but almost never ever should any of these skills cause you to delay an offensive cd. The only case when they should is if you will die without popping Second Wind.

It does 0 splash damage. You should never not be attacking something in A1S. If at any time your GCD stops spinning and the boss is not in the air, you're handling something wrong and can optimize your rotation further.


I'll add that, at i209 with NIN who's on the 0.5 with me on main Opp, I'm generally 1500+ going into first jump, with food, but without potions. 1000 is honestly quite significantly low, especially for you gear. My first kill in i180-190 gear was 3 jumps at 999 dps.