Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

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Originally Posted by Krakatoah

Whilst I don't have a horror story to tell yet, I'm pretty sure this thread is going to get very active with DRK-related stories reeeeeeal sooooon.

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YUP.
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The in Alliance B was the first to die before Everyone. Alliance C's abandoned first, followed by most of the alliance.... it was down to two DPS at some point before a wipe.

Dark Knight? More like Tissue Paper Knight.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Dark Knight? More like Tissue Paper Knight.

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I've noticed something similar to this.

I don;t know anything about their abilities but I assume they have CDs like every other tank job, yet I have not seen a one use them.

An example of this was when I was doing my first run of Stone Vigil as a AST earlier today. The DRK died a total of 7 times, more than I have ever seen anyone die ever out side of raids. At first I thought it was because I was getting use to how AST works, and how it heals, but by the third time I knew it wasn't me. I was throwing everything I had at him, once I even did a string "combo" of Bole -> Benefic -> Enhanced Benefic II -> Essential Dignity -> Aspected Benefic and he STILL died to the mob of three enemies. The first boss killed him in three hits and me and the two Mechinists fought it without him because he returned to the start. I ran out of MP 3 times and I was using Luminiferous Aether every chance I had. It was messy, and the worst run of Stone Vigil I think I ever had.

Edit: I didn't even DPS. This is the first run I have ever done where I couldn't even throw out an Aero.

Went into Sohm Al with a pugged 56 DRK - they played much like I've seen experienced WAR.... and didn't have too much problem o_oa I think it's just the player or people adapting, at this point - and possibly people with no prior tanking experience going straight from 30-50 (and higher), rather than 1-50. Possibly running Fates/leves and then MSQ/Sidequests the majority of the time.

No pb with drk here either. In fact, I had an easier time with the DRks I met than plenty of war/pld I ´ve seen in the past.

Not my story but I got to watch it yesterday - trying to heal Keeper with a i100 warrior who kept turning Defiance off....

For dark knights, they should have Grit on constantly unless they are off tank. A lot of the issues healing them may come if they are relying on Walking Dead too much - if you don't get them back up to full within 10 seconds it's an auto-KO.

A lot of the DKs have been coming in under geared in the dungeon roulettes. As such, I had to do a run where the DK had 1 less hp than me. I could not spare a single global cooldown to use buffs or heal the DPS. If not for essential dignity it would have gotten ugly at times.

With the mp costs going up by about 250% and my mp only going up by 100%, mp efficiency is so important. Its good practice from the days of being way overgeared and just being able to keep Med II up full time.

But.... In HW, everyone seems to be allergic to SS, even on swiftcast. And the tanks seem to think because you have 9.5K MP total that pulling new bosses when you are at 50% is just fine...this is getting annoying. The DPS seem to be used to not having to dodge anymore either.

In my first ravan run, had a drk and a pld. Someone asked the drk if he wanted to MT and he went "lol no, I'm a dmg tank, better for OT." Halfway through, pld went flying off the edge, so drk took over. He was a breeze to heal and we cleared it fine. Said he guessed he could tank and we all agreed. :p

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

No pb with drk here either. In fact, I had an easier time with the DRks I met than plenty of war/pld I ´ve seen in the past.

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Same, pretty good with DRKs during the HW dungeon train to 60 for the most part. As I play PLD often, I can tell almost all of them played a tank somewhat regularly. About the only thing I can say tanks are mainly coming in under geared and still wanting to pull like they are overgeared. Which I don't mind because I want to push my limits too in the heal+dps arena. But that dread or IW gear defensive effectiveness really starts to fade around The Vault.

I only had one DRK that I can tell was "newer" in the world of tanking. Maybe they FATEed their way to 50 because some of these habits would have gone away in LL dungeons. Like 'lets not use any CDs for big mobs' to 'Oh here this is where I'm going to use them, popping CDs while pulling the boss.'.

So.... the majority of DRKs I've healed in HW content have been completely fine. Ran a Roulette into Stone Vigil NM with a 'at level' DRK... and finally experienced what everyone's disliking about healing one D: I didn't check their gear (probably undergeared like someone mentioned was a recent common trend), but I was highly unamused. It was pretty much a nonstop cure/cure II fest. >_> Do anything else for a few seconds and it got scary.
When I could, I ended up non-cleric DPSing a little. I was sad inside. I don't think I healed that much (like, dangerous to even heal another party mate) on at-level other tanks, even when I was lower geared.

My horror story.... trying to get three FC Mates through Bismark (just at separate times).... went through several abandoned DFs to get it (yet, my first time in, it was beaten no problem...). THe snakes (I forgot what they were really called >_<) weren't going down fast enough, or tanks kept falling overboard right before the snake phase, another time a DPS fell overboard within maybe 15 seconds of the fight, so a tank purposely jumped overboard which meant it wasn't going to work, no matter what... DPS checks weren't met on the snakes or, at one point, didn't kill him fast enough at the end (after the snakes) - and even sooner if I was unable to really help add DoTs................because there is always those guys that just refuse to dodge (was so tempted to just let them die and stay dead, for the good of the rest of the party/my mp x__x;... *Hates being mean*). Another point, a huge chunk of the party all died at once from lightning (I think no one got the vapor bubbles).... and again in a separate attempt from what I think was the same issue...

I was sitting there, in those attempts, wondering "why did I get so lucky the time I went in for my first, and now it's like luck of the draw that we even make it passed the snake adds??" >_<

I have a feeling people are going to be avoiding this trial in the roulette, like Steps - unless things even out later.
Got so tired of wiping from not meeting the DPS checks....

Just went through the Aery with a DRK tank. Things were going badly for the first few pulls because the tank didn't have grit on. When we get to the first boss he still doesn't have it on, and I start bugging him to turn it on. He turns it on, runs toward the boss, then turns it off before actually pulling. The boss quickly kills our BLM before he can get hate back, and about halfway through our MCH pull hate and dies. We eventually down that boss with our two DPS having double weakness only to repeat this on the next boss.

The final boss of that dungeon was even worse. Our first attempt resulted in me getting trapped and dying because nobody broke the binding. Nobody in this run was new to the dungeon, by the way. The next run resulted in the tank not getting in the bubble, with predictable results. He declined my raise and went to the starting point and was complaining about how I didn't heal him. We did get the boss down on the next attempt, but that doesn't make up for it.

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Originally Posted by Saseal

Stone Vigil NM

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That says it all. I don't doubt that your tank needed help, but I'd say that the odds of having a tank who struggles in SV NM are very high if you don't get a level-synced one. A lot of new tanks enter that dungeon with poor gear and without being prepared to use CDs properly.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

That says it all. I don't doubt that your tank needed help, but I'd say that the odds of having a tank who struggles in SV NM are very high if you don't get a level-synced one. A lot of new tanks enter that dungeon with poor gear and without being prepared to use CDs properly.

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Hmm, yeah you're probably right - it's been a while since I've been in SV NM - even longer since an unsynced tank in there. I've probably been spoiled by that :( lol

The Vault - Took five attempts to kill the 2nd boss and it basically come down to the fact that I had to solo the last 3% of the boss after the entire party kept wiping. Funny enough, after doing that particular boss so many times, it's quite easy to tell that most of the damage is extremely avoidable and the only thing remotely dangerous in the entire fight was the Overpower.

Basically, it came down to a combination of the tank getting the party cleaved with Overpower, people getting knocked back into the Aetherial Tears at the side of the arena since they didn't position themselves properly, and people eating the Super Nova-esque move after Tomahawk consistently and repeatedly. Tank was generally sitting at around 8 stacks of vuln before going splat and most of the DPS were usually at 2-3.

I would've had it at the 4th attempt (6% remaining) if the DRG who was kiting didn't actually front face him towards me, got Overpowered, died while clipping me, then I got killed by the auto attack immediately afterwards.

*Shrugs*

Oh well.

I have quite a few horror stories but I'll list only a couple.

I was playing on a dungeon, trying to get WHM 50 about 8-9 months ago, before I quit this game. We kept wiping on a boss that I've never wiped on before, and this DPS begins bashing on me because it's "All the heals fault." So, I go into this insight that he should try healer if he thinks it's "Sooo Easy" and that I'm a "Bad Healer" after a bit he leaves, we get a new DPS, try out the boss again and win on the first try.

Next, I was playing with this tank that could not get aggro at all, and this was during Garuda Hard. I kept dying and he keeps blaming it on me, and we eventually kick him for blaming others for his own fault, and after a new tank that can actually have Aggro, we win.

Got into Aurum Vale trying to level up my Astrologian (level 49, needed this run to get to 50). New warrior tank, ok not something that'll end us as long as he knows the dungeon. First thing he does is forgoes throwing up his tanking stance (defiance), charges straight into 6 mobs and dies. Doesn't say a word (infact he doesn't say a word for the entire dungeon). I ask him politely to throw on defiance as he is the tank and that is his tanking stance. The SMN in the party immediately gets an attitude "let him do what he wants, you're not the boss of him"
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99% sure these 2 were together.
This time the tank throws on defiance and does small pulls til we get to the first boss, nothing wrong once he threw on his stance until the actual boss.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Tank TURNED OFF DEFIANCE and then pulled the boss. I didn't realize this until I noticed how low in HP he'd get every couple of seconds. Everyone had 2 stacks of the damage debuff from the boss and eventually stacked up to 3. I'm the ONLY one cleansing the debuff off myself every time I got 2 stacks due to lowbie gear and AST's crappy aoe heals until at one point I had 2 stacks and said screw it and threw my aspected benefic and aspected helios on myself to try and heal the rest through it. Of course we wipe and the SMN has the balls to say to me "healer, don't stand in the goldbile". Not once. NOT ONCE in ANY AV run have I ever stood in the goldbile like an idiot and I didn't do it this run.
That's when I snapped because I was already sick of it from other dungeon runs.
ME: "I wasn't standing in the goldbile dude, I had 2 stacks of the boss's DoT that I was purposely not cleansing just so I could spend more time healing you morons through the DoTs you refused to cleanse. If the tank would STAY in his defiance stance I wouldn't have to blow tons of benefic IIs on him."
SMN: "And here we go"
2 seconds later I get kicked. Not surprised. Joined a different Aurum Vale run and blow throw the whole dungeon without a hitch.

This is a "healing horror story" but not quite as much fault of bad players rather than a bad DPS combination combined with 3/4 of the party having never done it before.

If you haven't played "The Vault" yet, this contains spoilers.






So here's some spoiler space.

So I was recording it, as I feel the first time I run something is worth recording to see where mistakes can be fixed. Only one of the DPS had played this before.

Trash pulls: Generally too easy, deceivingly easy.

Bosses:
- First boss, hard but not too hard
- Second boss, hard, but not terribly hard
- Third boss, oh good gawd why do we keep wiping at the same point.

So if you haven't played the Vault, or at least haven't played it as a healer, it contains one specific mechanic that is difficult to heal through: Alter Pyre

I have a PLD, Dragoon and a Monk. That combination alone is a high healing requirement. Every time Alter Pyre goes off, 30% (1080 to 2600) of the HP is burned off everyone. We do get past the Holy Fireballs parts every time.

Normally I'm very conservative when it comes to spending MP, but here's a boss where almost every attack calls for Medica.

So watching the Tank in the video (these are just the numbers I can see):
1310
3169
1999
1893 as the tank stands in the red circle
1499
2400
1575
Chains appear, DPS takes 1450 damage each
Knights appear
970
440
514
980
Medica heals for 1760 on the tank
Alter Pyre burns everyone, tank for 1655, DPS for 1200 each, me for 1512
439
1214
1293
547
1198
3036 (some kind of fireball)
1269
314
Red Circles appear
1569, tank stands in circle again
Chains appear on me and DPS, 1129 damage to me
Holy Flames appear, at this point 1/3rd of Mana has been consumed, and boss's HP is down by 1/3rd, everyone takes 3500-3600 damage (Pure of Heart)
-And this is where things usually go wrong-
Alter Pyre now does 2100 damage to everyone
Knights Appear, Then the red circles, but since I'm already to the edge of the arena, and another Knight appears, I'm screwed, getting hit with Turret charge for 2746 and slow. Second red circle appears, Chains appear on me and DPS, DPS moves towards me, Chains do 1000 damage, then do another 1000 damage.
1094
1829 (Alter Pyre) That DPS dies to the next Alter Pyre as the Cure doesn't land until after Alter Pyre strikes.
1605
4087 (Tank's HP is 85) and Tank dies
DPS dies
I die.

Next round, Tank tries to avoid red circles. But DPS has to go answer their doorbell and we wipe.

Next round, can't keep up with the healing requirements, as the one DPS moves in the wrong direction with the chains attached to me before being taken out by the knights, and eventually I go OOM.

So the Duty is then abandoned.

So overall for the amount of time spent, more of the fault was with the Tank not avoiding avoidable damage, but the healing requirements were also driven up by the DPS not immediately breaking the chains. Healing through it isn't terrible, but when it's combined with avoiding the knights and red circles, you don't get an opportunity to heal during those mechanics. Save for running out of mana, I'm actually thinking the DPS was too low on the boss... likely from all the mechanics needing to be avoided for melee.

So the take away:
- If possible get everyone to stack so less floor area is consumed by red circles
- Red circles appear after the knights, don't move towards the gaps to avoid the knights until after the circles appear, or you will lose floor space for avoiding them.
- It may be more viable to tank the boss near the entrance to buy more time for the knights phase.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

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Originally Posted by Nikorayu

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Thanks... I've never had to use it before.

Husband and I just unlocked Fractal and Neverreap so we decided to run them for law tomes and gear. Neverreap goes fine with me laughing at the MNK and PLD getting knocked around by the tornados. I got annoyed at the last boss due to the tornados knocking me around but it went smoothly otherwise.

Then we get into Fractal. We get a BLM and a DRK. Oh joy a DRK how I love those /s. After the tank finishes watching the cutscene I notice he has 12k hp. Uhhh the tank we ran Neverreap with had 15k hp so what gives? I brush it aside and decide it's nothing to worry about. Boy was I wrong. Within the first pull the tank gets knocked down to about 15% of his hp. Panic ensues from me and I spam heals on him. My husband laughs at this and asks me how I like healing him and I reply that I hate it just like I hate healing other DRKs. The dungeon goes pretty much the same way at every pull for him which keeps me on my toes. He dies to the second boss which of course irritates me to no end because it was an easily avoided attack. Again, the rest of the pulls go the same with him nearly dying. Then we reach the part where we have to kill the adds that are tethered to the consoles we have to turn off. On the last group he somehow died three times to the Magitek Colosus looking enemy. I'm still not even sure how he died! My husband ended up dying at that point as well because he had to kite the big fella around. Then came the final boss. At this point I'm already irritated with this tank for being squishier than jello. He pulls the Curator and somehow it knocks him down to 20% of his health within the first attack from it! Of course I panic and Tetragammaton him and spam the hell out of Cure and Cure II on him. I screwed up and didn't Esuna the Aetherochemical Bomb fast enough from the BLM which causes us to wipe due to being knocked around and taking massive damage. Okay, round two, fight! Yet AGAIN the tank is knocked to near death and I have to spam heals on him which causes me to run low on mp pretty fast. My husband has to ballad me so I don't run out. The tank screws something up at this point and causes us to wipe. Third times the charm, right? Nope! Once more the tank is knocked to near death and I have to spam heals. In the middle of Esunaing the bomb off of myself the tank manages to get himself killed. I had enough of dealing with that tank and ended up leaving and taking a 30 minute penalty.

Once upon a time.

Me awake for 23 hours....

The end.

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Originally Posted by Fatalmephisto

Mine would have to be where i had to tank Titan and i was the healer. That was awesome but still horrible.

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I remember something similar with me Thaumaturge healing the ninja and the two of us clearing it after the healer ran behind the tank and both got landslide off the platform

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Originally Posted by Saseal

I was sitting there, in those attempts, wondering "why did I get so lucky the time I went in for my first, and now it's like luck of the draw that we even make it passed the snake adds??" >_<

I have a feeling people are going to be avoiding this trial in the roulette, like Steps - unless things even out later.
Got so tired of wiping from not meeting the DPS checks....

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Yeah, healer is always in-need in trials roulette it seems, and I've been seeing some really bad Bismarck HM runs lately with low DPS that even I'm in clerics helping out as much as-possible. One run the other healer bailed after a wipe because they just couldn't take one person falling off and the already lax DPS. I bet it wasn't the first time they had to deal with it either.

But I agree during Early Access weekend it was cake, but I think it's because we get a larger percentage of "die-hards" that were speed-leveling their mains and generally know their jobs well. Same with Steps on the first day of that 2.55 patch.

Fractal run. DPS is low, really low, but not so bad we can't clear stuff before we run out of, for example, things to feed the minotaur. We eventually get to the last boss...

Slow, again, but crawlers are dying and mechanics are getting handled. Until the DRK (well geared and showing his disgust at the DPS the whole run, and generally being impatient) stands in a glowy panel and, with 3 stacks of vulnerability, finally dies to the big cleave. Checked the death report and I did have heals landing on him, just wasn't enough to overcome 3 damage sources with 3 stacks of vulnerability.

Got kicked. :/ Not a big deal since every time I queue, healers are instant, but bleh.

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Originally Posted by technole

Yeah, healer is always in-need in trials roulette it seems, and I've been seeing some really bad Bismarck HM runs lately with low DPS that even I'm in clerics helping out as much as-possible.

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Yeah, same... I feel bad (for the other healer) every time I ham the DPS on that trial, just to try to get passed the checks (IE 'got tired of wiping from not meeting DPS checks'). Not that I DON'T heal, I just Cleric more aggressively to keep DoTs up and chain-Stone III-ing and then jump out of Cleric when fans are slapping shit or it seems the other healer needs help (or re-prepping Asylum/regen/Medica/Medica II) :/. I've been on the reverse (being the one healing mainly while the other healer is hard DPSing) and I find it's unfortunately needed for one or the other healer to do it on the low DPS runs ---- until things stabilize, I hope.

One thing I find that a lot of casters don't seem to realize - they need to be ON Bismark to actually do damage....... x.x; Every run has at least one or two (either casters or the other healer) attempting to DPS and get away with not havign the the DoT. x.x Theres a reason why I Medica II just before everyone and I jump on... lol

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Fractal run. ......stands in a glowy panel and, with 3 stacks of vulnerability, finally dies to the big cleave. Checked the death report and I did have heals landing on him, just wasn't enough to overcome 3 damage sources with 3 stacks of vulnerability.

Got kicked. :/ Not a big deal since every time I queue, healers are instant, but bleh.

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Ew... They have plenty of time to get off those panels and it's not like they're completely surrounded by them (assuming you mean the 't' shaped glow panels) >_> That tank is nonsense. /soothe

Just a Side Note. As a DRK Tank myself i'm really sad for all the hatred against drks ._.

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Originally Posted by Hypie

Just a Side Note. As a DRK Tank myself i'm really sad for all the hatred against drks ._.

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If it's any consolation, I've had a few DRKs that were just as good as any tank :D

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Originally Posted by Hypie

Just a Side Note. As a DRK Tank myself i'm really sad for all the hatred against drks ._.

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I've run into more bad DRK tanks than good DRK tanks, but I'm just going to chalk that up to the unfamiliarity to the toolkit.

With that being said, the good DRKs I've run with, I've seen no difference in healing them versus a good WAR or PLD.

On the flip side, any tank being played poorly is just terrible, and makes the job of the healer that much more stressful.

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Originally Posted by Saseal

If it's any consolation, I've had a few DRKs that were just as good as any tank :D

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Thy^^ What i fear is that DRK Players will be shunned because they have this "drks are usually players who cant tank and suck" reputation. I really really want to play drk. even in raid. But just to be sure i can see the raid im lvling war up. Thats really sad.

A "Healing Horror Story" of mine:

I was lvling my drk and got an ast. He was so focused on drawing cards that i solo healed myself on trash x.x

From what I've seen DRKs tend to be incompetent and just playing a tank for the instaqueues, or amazingly skilled but running into issues with the job itself being kinda weak compared to PLD/WAR. It's really sad, as there isn't a huge difference between a mediocre paladin and an amazing dark knight when there really should be.

On the theme of this thread, I recently did the aery with a paladin, who despite being level synced and having run the dungeon before, didn't seem to have a clue. He would run in circles randomly, making the monk unable to do much, would run into the poison clouds, stand in the AoE, not handle prey, and went from full health to dead very quickly when I got caught in the sable price and asked why I didn't heal him. To add injury to insult I then died to sable weave.

DV. ilvl121 whm, no problems on previous runs.

Get a PLD tank. Open up a second pull with Divine Seal'd Regen and Cure II to top him off and pop CS. Can I dish Holy spam? Of course not. He dropped from 8k to 2k in 1 GCD. PLD. 6k in 1 GCD to 1 pack of mobs...

To make things worse, my SC and Benediction were on CD, CS was still on 3 sec CD. He died and, oblivious, blamed it on my lag. The rest of the encounter I spent losing my hope in humanity and opportunity to try and DPS. I don't know why he was dropping that low. Really. He wasn't even in Sword Oath, he was in Shield Oath.

He apparently didn't know how to use CD's. He popped Convalenscence right after I popped CS and way too late to affect my Regen. I don't know what did he expect me to do. Heal through CS? Popped Awareness just before the pull. Cool moves, but no point in it if he couldn't take non-crit hits. 2 defensive CD's and FoF at adds being at 50%? No Hallowed Ground at all.

All in all, it was a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Viar

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I had a tough time handling a WAR in Dusk Vigil last night. I'm at i124 AST, the WAR is Dreadwyrm geared, close to if not i130. We got up to the first pack, and I set up HoT's, popped CS, and went for Gravity, and the tank got clobbered. I squeezed off the one Gravity while waiting for CS to come off CD and managed to eke out Essential Dignity with the tank in triple digit HP. Not a CD in sight, even after he switched to DPS stance, causing me to heal him for just as much against two mobs as I had been doing against three. Poor tank has yet to realize that his gear is now just average.

I thought Dusk Vigil was okay. I guess I was i130 at the time, but I was healing the tank while reading all of the torn journal pages. I would throw a Stoneskin, Divine Seal Medica II and Regen on the tank, then run over and read the journal. As the tank got to around 50%, I ran back and swiftcast a cure II and a couple cures, run back and finish reading. :P

I did a really painful Neverreap a couple days ago that I'm still scarred from. The tank was a DRK and there were two BLM. I noticed it was a little slow (about 30 minutes to get to the final boss), but I wasn't in a hurry to go anywhere so I didn't mind. We get to the last boss and for some reason, one of the BLM dies almost immediately. I raise them and realize they're not dodging the boss when he runs around the arena and they're standing on an edge where he turns. I used benediction somewhat early on. The fight continues until I run out of mana with shroud and assize on cooldown. They come back up and I recover a little, but then I run out of mana again. The fight continues long enough for benediction to come back up again. I use benediction again. Seriously, seriously out of mana. BLM are getting hit by almost every tornado. They're not doing much damage to the boss, the adds aren't dying during adds phase and the BLM are taking tons of damage. I look up and notice that the limit break us up, but no one is using it. I point it out and the BLM try, but the tornadoes knock them around until we all die. We wipe at 3%.

We go back in again. This time, I see that the LB comes up at 44%. I point it out because if we get a full LB 2 at 44%, we could get another LB1 before 10%. If they use it now, that could push DPS enough that the fight won't be as painful as before. One no tries to use the LB. I'm healing, but start to run low on mana. The adds are still taking a very long time to die. The BLM are still taking lots of damage from tornadoes and the boss. At 20%, no one has used the LB. I don't understand why no one is using it and my mana is low, so I use the LB during the AoE knockback. We wipe at 1%.

On respawn, the DRK asks me why I used the LB. I said it was because no one was using it and my mana was low. He says my mana was around 7k (I honestly don't remember, so I guess I'll take his word for it?). One of the BLM says they don't use LB until around 10-15% because it could kill it. I tell them that it came up so early, we could have gotten another LB bar and it would have been over much sooner. One of the BLM comments that all of their gear is broken.

The fight continues to take forever. We wipe at something like 30% and they vote kicked me. I still needed my expert roulette, so I queued back up and got the same dungeon. They vote abandoned. I entered expert roulette, got fractal and cleared with ease in just over 20 minutes, walking away with two commendations. I also got three commendations from my low level roulette so at least I had something good happen that day.

It was definitely the worst experience I've ever had in expert roulette and I'm never queuing expert roulette alone again.

I keep getting tanks trying to speed run the new level 60 dungeons and it's grating my onions. No one seems to realize that trash mobs are not as pathetic as they were in 2.0 and not every healer is up to date with their gear. Neverreap is worse since tanks never seem to try and park themselves in a spot where the rest of us won't be playing "dodge the tornadoes"

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Originally Posted by Seryl199

I had a tough time handling a WAR in Dusk Vigil last night. I'm at i124 AST, the WAR is Dreadwyrm geared, close to if not i130. We got up to the first pack, and I set up HoT's, popped CS, and went for Gravity, and the tank got clobbered. I squeezed off the one Gravity while waiting for CS to come off CD and managed to eke out Essential Dignity with the tank in triple digit HP. Not a CD in sight, even after he switched to DPS stance, causing me to heal him for just as much against two mobs as I had been doing against three. Poor tank has yet to realize that his gear is now just average.

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Honestly? Had no trouble at all stance-dancing with war in Deliverance in DV. Had enough breathing room to drop two-three Holy, and get back to healing. The first time I have less hassle healing war over pld. Just shows how bad that pld was...

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Originally Posted by Viar

Honestly? Had no trouble at all stance-dancing with war in Deliverance in DV. Had enough breathing room to drop two-three Holy, and get back to healing. The first time I have less hassle healing war over pld. Just shows how bad that pld was...

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I've had that issue with war in Deliverance in DV, once. War was tanking with it and was sitting at a max hp of 7k, mnk trailing right behind at 6800. I couldn't even switch to cleric stance without the tank spiking half of his health and having to blow 2 or 3 lustrates while I took off CS and started Adlo spam.

It was most likely that I didn't get a very "good" tank, but it also definitely feels like war is much more squishy than before, at least in the 50s. I have zero issues keeping up 60 wars on both ast and sch even on speed pulls in the expert dungeons

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Originally Posted by Hypie

Thy^^ What i fear is that DRK Players will be shunned because they have this "drks are usually players who cant tank and suck" reputation. I really really want to play drk. even in raid. But just to be sure i can see the raid im lvling war up. Thats really sad.

A "Healing Horror Story" of mine:

I was lvling my drk and got an ast. He was so focused on drawing cards that i solo healed myself on trash x.x

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Many DRK's I encountered at endgame are decent. One recently in Neverreap was one of the best Tanks I've seen ever. Pulled all 4 wasps and the tree no f**ks given and survived. The reason they have a bad rep is because of levelling content and people playing it because it has a cool name but they don't even understand the fundamentals of Tanking and the DRK skills.

I ran Vault to help out an FC member the other night. I'm a WHM i174 we had a WAR tanking for us who did the place in dps stance dies a few times because mobs hit hard not using CDs and hes was still in Dreadwyrm gear. goes off at me saying i'm a shit healer get to last boss after taking 45mins to get there WAR dies from not moving my FC member takes over tanking as a Monk tank. WAR rages in chat telling me to rez him we down the boss and leave i left him to run back not going to rez someone who rages like that.

The very next run same place but with a DRK tank went smooth told i was a good healer said sorry for being under geared and thanked us at the end.

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This kind of stuff is getting out of hand ... I am tried of seeing tanks who don't understand that new content is actually hard at first, ESP if your under geared like that. Or tanks that decide that cooldowns are below them and never use them to help out the healers. OR the people that see your good at your job and proceed to stand in EVERYTHING and think that you are their heal slave. If a tank stands in AOE's, I ask once nicely, then I stop healing completely, you can kick me if you want, idc, I'm not a slave so you can be lazy. :mad:

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I was lvling my drk and got an ast. He was so focused on drawing cards that i solo healed myself on trash x.x

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LOL, when I started leveling my AST, the first thing I did was memorize all the cards so I wouldn't have to: Stop. Read Buff. Decide how to apply. Not that hard actually, since there are only 6, and you can make a cheat sheet and put it next to your TV/Monitor/Whatever ...


Story-kind of:

I wasn't healing, but my husband was, I was helping him clear the new dungeons as I was ahead of him and had been 60 for awhile. We get Neverreap, so is all good, I'm on my i145 SMN (Main SCH), we get a PLD & a MNK. I was rocking 1200DPS on aoe and about 800Single (Yeah, I suck, but I tried) ... the sad part was ... the monk ... flat out 200-300 DPS, on everything ... I couldn't say anything because of "OMG get banned for calling out DPS", the Totem boss took like 10minutes! AND then today, my husband queued solo for expert.... got Fact-whatever, and both DPS <500 ... This is starting to want to make me leave.... And I'm not saying that everyone should be God-Like DPS, but <500 DPS is just lazy IMO, when the tank can out DPS you in tank stance or my SCH can out DPS you while keeping the tank up, your horrible. Period.