Review of 6.3 Story Content

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Its clear that the writers didnt want to drag out the four fiends into this current arc and wanted to give them enough screentime and weight to achieve whatever the plot needs them to do and honestly thats enough.

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But it's not though. They've literally handled characters like the Fiends better in the past, and this has been not up to par.

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you seriously dont need an emotional and complex backstory to every single thing, just need to have enough motivation and understanding to know why they do the things they do in a jrpg for villians

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And that's the worse thing about it.

They've literally hinted at this backstory. Hell it's literally the story about the 13th! It's literally a shard of the our world that became corrupted and its inhabitants being summoned into the Source for all kinds of bullshit. They literally dangled and mentioned and acknowledged that "Yeah we're actually stilll human xd" with Rubicon, and that's just a missed opportunity to explore that instead of just watching Zero eat bread for 3rd time.

That's what's disappointing about it. There was so much potential, but we just kill two of them in a dungeon and that's all she wrote.

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EDIT: I did not realize that forums have a post limit LMAO. So I'll be using this post to reply once.
I'll come back to this once the limit's gone after a few days or something idk.

But anyway.

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Originally Posted by Plasma711

Seems you're talking about yourself again to me. I was discussing the story just fine until you came in getting incredibly hostile and defensive.

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Originally Posted by Plasma711

Yeah you're absolutely coping holy moly. I bet you're fun at parties, jesus christ.

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Yeah definitely unprompted.

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Originally Posted by Plasma711

You can dislike this game or anything else. It has 0 impact on me, I think its hilarious that you're this tilted because people brought opposing views to your wild claims. Maybe dont open your mouth on shit if you can't handle the replies eh?

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Yeah and I'm discussing these opposing views though? I've literally listed out and elaborated all and replied to all your points and then you had the notion of attacking me for saying as much? Check all my replies and they've all been revolving around my points and they've been consistent, and then you immediately countered with an attack on my character, and then when I defend myself you had the gall to project on me?

I'll be fine talking to you a lot more, but if you are going to start hurling insults to people after a while, then maybe you should not open your mouth on shit if you can't handle the replies, eh?

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Originally Posted by Payotz

Buddy if your sense of self-worth depends on a lot of people liking the same video game you're playing, then that's really on you and not on me.

This is a discussion for a 6.3 story. Hell the first post is literally critcizing and reviewing the story.

If you really don't like people critcizing your favourite video game, then I suggest going to this thread:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...d-it-be/page10

It's infinitely a lot more soothing for your soul.

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Seems you're talking about yourself again to me. I was discussing the story just fine until you came in getting incredibly hostile and defensive. My sense of self worth? Where was I talking about me in any of these paragraphs. You can dislike this game or anything else. It has 0 impact on me, I think its hilarious that you're this tilted because people brought opposing views to your wild claims. Maybe dont open your mouth on shit if you can't handle the replies eh? I thought people in game have fragile egos, but man people on the forums take the cake lol. I love that youre literally the person couple pages back telling people not to do personal attacks, yet you've personally attacked how many people now? 2? 3? I hate plenty of stuff in this game, and I have 0 qualms about discussing it. Your issue is, people are disagreeing with you and apparently your mind just can't handle it.

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Originally Posted by Plasma711

Glad you said this. Because it just reminded me. Not Shb, but Anima. Anima was from X, what was Anima in X? Seymour's mom. What is Anima in XIV? Zenos' dad. Wow imagine that more fan service. Crystal Tower raids? Wait for it... Fan service to FFIII. Thordan and the Knights of the Round, fan service to FF7. Hell Hydaelyn and Zodiark have a lot of similarities to Cosmos/Materia and Chaos/Spiritus from Dissidia. Shinryu that we have is akin to Shinryu from FFV same with Omega. Kefka is from VI. Again the list goes round and round.

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Lifestream, aether and the aetherial sea is just FFVII, FFIX and FFX when it comes to the afterlife. Doma is FFVI, Krile who is one of the Scions (albeit minor) is ripped straight out of FFV, Crystal Tower and everything having to do with Allag is just FFIII, uh...

oh...yeah thats right, the WHOLE CONVOCATION OF FOURTEEN, ARE JUST THE SCIONS OF LIGHT FROM FFXII COMPLETE WITH THE SAME NAMES AS WELL AS THEIR BACKGROUND PLOT BEING THE SAME.

Aka, the series loves to have incest with itself. Its digusting and foul but we love FF for doing it because they always manage to reuse pre-established ideas and give it a new spin.

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Originally Posted by Payotz

But it's not though. They've literally handled characters like the Fiends better in the past, and this has been not up to par.



And that's the worse thing about it.

They've literally hinted at this backstory. Hell it's literally the story about the 13th! It's literally a shard of the our world that became corrupted and its inhabitants being summoned into the Source for all kinds of bullshit. They literally dangled and mentioned and acknowledged that "Yeah we're actually stilll human xd" with Rubicon, and that's just a missed opportunity to explore that instead of just watching Zero eat bread for 3rd time.

That's what's disappointing about it. There was so much potential, but we just kill two of them in a dungeon and that's all she wrote.

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EDIT: I did not realize that forums have a post limit LMAO. So I'll be using this post to reply once.
I'll come back to this once the limit's gone after a few days or something idk.

But anyway.





Yeah definitely unprompted.



Yeah and I'm discussing these opposing views though? I've literally listed out and elaborated all and replied to all your points and then you had the notion of attacking me for saying as much?
Check all my replies and they've all been revolving around my points and they've been consistent.

I'll be fine talking to you a lot more, but if you are going to start hurling insults to people after a while, then maybe you should not open your mouth on shit if you can't handle the replies.

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I've looked at your replies lol, you get mad defensive and aggressive anytime people disagree with you, then play victim when people clap back. Maybe stay off the internet if you can't handle throwing stones from a glass house. I've also had no issue talking to anyone in this thread besides you, wild right? Whats the common denominator in people hurling insults, oh right you. Maybe learn how to talk to people without seeming like a triggered white knight in every reply, and then maybe people will talk to you differently. Also you're the one who started throwing at myself and Atelier that we are coping because we like something you don't. So again who started the attacking? Oh right, again it was you. Fix yourself before you start talking about other people. I'll be ignoring whatever garbage you spew from here on out and actually have conversations with people who want to have a... conversation.

If you think the Fiends are bad here, go check 'em out in IX. The first time around, you don't even fight three of them; they're defeated in cutscenes by two other party members each, and the one you do fight can be made a total joke just by equipping Auto-Float. The second time, they're out-of-nowhere speed bumps in the second-to-final zone who get a couple lines of dialogue and then die. The final time, they're crystallized trash mobs in the final zone, which is pretty short, so you might not even see more than one or two.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If you think the Fiends are bad here, go check 'em out in IX. The first time around, you don't even fight three of them; they're defeated in cutscenes by two other party members each, and the one you do fight can be made a total joke just by equipping Auto-Float. The second time, they're out-of-nowhere speed bumps in the second-to-final zone who get a couple lines of dialogue and then die. The final time, they're crystallized trash mobs in the final zone, which is pretty short, so you might not even see more than one or two.

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Hey be careful talking about other games in this thread, someone might get offended.

I was hoping we would get more stuff done this patch, but we just got baited by Cagnazzo and they destroyed our portal, that's it, I guess the focus of this patch was Zero's character development (which was something I've seen a hundred times but eh, I hope she stops spamming that tip hat emote from now on).
But we fight Golbez next patch for sure. SURELY things will start to become interesting in 6.4, right?

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

If thats what you took from the Four Fiends in FFXIV with them just "hurr durr I will eat your world" then wow you must've just intentionally tuned them out. Not gonna gonna say that they're deep and meaningful but you seriously dont need an emotional and complex backstory to every single thing, just need to have enough motivation and understanding to know why they do the things they do in a jrpg for villians. Its clear that the writers didnt want to drag out the four fiends into this current arc and wanted to give them enough screentime and weight to achieve whatever the plot needs them to do and honestly thats enough.

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You're not supposed to tell others that the series loves to get it's kicks by taking it's self out on a date and then go back to its place to do the horizontal foxtrot. I had a person say I was crazy for wanting to know the difference between why some things when they die just turn into aether dust. You know the stuff you see all over the Delta Quadrant in Azys La and how some people like Yasale, Elidibus, Haurchefant ect get the Farplane sperm thingies.

For me up to ShB Hydelean and Zodiark felt like they were going beat for beat of the Altana Vs Promethean storyline from XI. Heck both MMOs have the players beat up Hades at the end of one of their expansions. And yes the it has to be all one way or the other is one of my gripes with the community as well. Especially when it comes to liking or disliking something. You say you like something and somehow that must mean you don't have any minor faults with it. Or that you have to be a shill.

I think there's probably more people who remember and care about Delores Bear and his ill fated party than Edda herself. There were even people who had forgotten who G'Raha was when starting ShB due to how long ago they had done the CT raid.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

You're not supposed to tell others that the series loves to get it's kicks by taking it's self out on a date and then go back to its place to do the horizontal foxtrot. I had a person say I was crazy for wanting to know the difference between why some things when they die just turn into aether dust. You know the stuff you see all over the Delta Quadrant in Azys La and how some people like Yasale, Elidibus, Haurchefant ect get the Farplane sperm thingies.

For me up to ShB Hydelean and Zodiark felt like they were going beat for beat of the Altana Vs Promethean storyline from XI. Heck both MMOs have the players beat up Hades at the end of one of their expansions. And yes the it has to be all one way or the other is one of my gripes with the community as well. Especially when it comes to liking or disliking something. You say you like something and somehow that must mean you don't have any minor faults with it. Or that you have to be a shill.

I think there's probably more people who remember and care about Delores Bear and his ill fated parry than Edda herself. There were even people who had forgotten who G'Raha was when starting ShB due to how long ago they had done the CT raid.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If you think the Fiends are bad here, go check 'em out in IX. The first time around, you don't even fight three of them; they're defeated in cutscenes by two other party members each, and the one you do fight can be made a total joke just by equipping Auto-Float. The second time, they're out-of-nowhere speed bumps in the second-to-final zone who get a couple lines of dialogue and then die. The final time, they're crystallized trash mobs in the final zone, which is pretty short, so you might not even see more than one or two.

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How dare you insult my fav FF! There was a load of nuisance with those fiends...wait...actually there wasn't they were just....dare I say canon fodder pawns for the big bad to dispose of? Damn...