And SE still just turns a blind eye to blantant harassement...

Part of the problem with dealing with this guy is that every thread about them gets derailed by weird LARPers who want to play into their attention-seeking fantasy. That's ultimately what this is all about: attention.

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Originally Posted by Zakuyia

Not gonna lie thats pretty funny XD I seen stuff like that was like ok. Got my laugh and walked away. Im not here to judge....but um bro could at least put some clothes on for them cold nights when the sea breeze chills the bones..... ._.

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But them muscles….those aren’t something you’d hide underneath.

Good to see this is still a thing months later...
https://i.imgur.com/0gyD2Pw.jpg

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Originally Posted by Doki

Good to see this is still a thing months later...
https://i.imgur.com/0gyD2Pw.jpg

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I appreciate how safe Limsa Lominsa is. Excellent.

He protects citizens

The blacklist only holds 200 names. There are more of these bots than that.

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Originally Posted by LotteYanson

i dont get it from where they pull the energy to keep doin this?
Once it maybe was funny but permanently?
Its just cringe

Can the game even run like 20 times without tools?

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Two instances are possible to launch on a computer without using third party tools or virtualization.

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Originally Posted by Doki

Good to see this is still a thing months later...
https://i.imgur.com/0gyD2Pw.jpg

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Tremendous, what an iconic sight. Absolutely a quality increase for Limsa for this blessed server.

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Originally Posted by Crafoutis

Tremendous, what an iconic sight. Absolutely a quality increase for Limsa for this blessed server.

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There's definitely something tremendous about it.....

The Limsa Lominsa citizens of course! We're all so tremendously safe and protected.

I'm pretty sure its against the ToS to..
1.) abuse the free trial system for stuff like this
2.) make it unbearable for someone to run through limsa with stuff like that.
I'm getting 30 fps average since this guy arrived on a 5060. I dont want to imagine the numbers for someone playing on recommended requirements.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I'm pretty sure its against the ToS to..
1.) abuse the free trial system for stuff like this
2.) make it unbearable for someone to run through limsa with stuff like that.
I'm getting 30 fps average since this guy arrived on a 5060. I dont want to imagine the numbers for someone playing on recommended requirements.

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If that was true everybody in Balmungs Quicksand and outside it would be banned.

There's a setting you can use to make nearby players invisible y'know.

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Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost

If that was true everybody in Balmungs Quicksand and outside it would be banned.

There's a setting you can use to make nearby players invisible y'know.

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The Character and Object quantity setting?
I know... I have it set to automatic which works totally fine even for hunttrains, but for whatever reason doesnt work that well for limsa especially during ingame nighttime with that guy having 100 bots lined up next to the marketboard.
You cant really compare the situation in QS with this. Noone in QS has more than one character logged in except for the occasional bard band.

I mean I do think it's funny, but when all of Aether is in a perpetual state of congested it's kind of annoying.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I'm pretty sure its against the ToS to..
1.) abuse the free trial system for stuff like this
2.) make it unbearable for someone to run through limsa with stuff like that.
I'm getting 30 fps average since this guy arrived on a 5060. I dont want to imagine the numbers for someone playing on recommended requirements.

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If your numbers are that bad with unarmored Roegadyn then it's going to be way worse when they're not there, culling the more complex armor sets of the Limsa idlers, so I'm calling you out on that lie lol.

bunch of naked roes -> freak attraction -> tourism from different servers -> market board profit

there is your solution

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I'm getting 30 fps average since this guy arrived on a 5060. I dont want to imagine the numbers for someone playing on recommended requirements.

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I really want to press X to doubt on this. I still have an old prebuilt pc that still only has a 1070 gpu in my den and when I am in there gaming I suffer 0 fps drops and can maintain a steady 60 fps even when LL is jammed full of these roes and a bunch of RP chatting in /s and emoting. So I hightly doubt these Roes are the cause of any frame rate drops you're suffering unless you already have the graphics set way higher than your gpu can easily handle

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I really want to press X to doubt on this. I still have an old prebuilt pc that still only has a 1070 gpu in my den and when I am in there gaming I suffer 0 fps drops and can maintain a steady 60 fps even when LL is jammed full of these roes and a bunch of RP chatting in /s and emoting. So I hightly doubt these Roes are the cause of any frame rate drops you're suffering unless you already have the graphics set way higher than your gpu can easily handle

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XIV is mostly CPU bound from what I remember.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I'm getting 30 fps average since this guy arrived on a 5060. I dont want to imagine the numbers for someone playing on recommended requirements.

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This has to be cap, I don't drop to 30 fps on a 3070 unless I'm literally in a hunt train with the max number of renderable player models + their mounts on my screen.

That being said, hunt trains, world fates, Balmung Quicksands, and patch day will literally put more characters on your screen than this weeb police guy ever will. The naked roes are an eyesore, sure, but saying they're "abusing the free trial system to make limsa unbearable" is a little dramatic.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

XIV is mostly CPU bound from what I remember.

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That PC has its original CPU too, from like 2015 or 16

https://i.imgur.com/nYurzT1.png
https://i.imgur.com/CyHSkah.png

Sargatanas Vs Faerie Limsa FPS High Desktop Preset 5600X + 5060

Dude is no doubt single handedly impacting the game performance. Both worlds had around the same FPS before he arrived.
If you reach 60 FPS without drops on a 10 y/o brick - good for you. I dont like playing this game in 720p with minimum settings.

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https://i.imgur.com/nYurzT1.png
https://i.imgur.com/CyHSkah.png

Sargatanas Vs Faerie Limsa FPS High Desktop Preset 5600X + 5060

Dude is no doubt single handedly impacting the game performance. Both worlds had around the same FPS before he arrived.
If you reach 60 FPS without drops on a 10 y/o brick - good for you. I dont like playing this game in 720p with minimum settings.

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That's not your CPU brother.

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Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost

That's not your CPU brother.

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????
stop gaslighting me.. now im actually not sure what I have. Might be 5700X even. Upgraded from 5 5500 to something better with the same socket not too long ago. No matter what it is. Its better or at least equal to what SE recommends.

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????
stop gaslighting me.. now im actually not sure what I have. Might be 5700X even. Upgraded from 5 5500 to something better with the same socket not too long ago. No matter what it is. Its better or at least equal to what SE recommends.

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I will admit, I do enjoy a good trolling about, sometimes. But no, a CPU and a GPU are not the same thing. I even googled it, to explain better than I personally could, for you.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...beadf9cd83cab&

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

https://i.imgur.com/nYurzT1.png
https://i.imgur.com/CyHSkah.png

Sargatanas Vs Faerie Limsa FPS High Desktop Preset 5600X + 5060

Dude is no doubt single handedly impacting the game performance. Both worlds had around the same FPS before he arrived.
If you reach 60 FPS without drops on a 10 y/o brick - good for you. I dont like playing this game in 720p with minimum settings.

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lol I don't. I actually have the graphics fairly up there on a 1440p

Them being against lalafeels is racist which is against ToS. I heard or if i remember right they used to block important NPCs for quests. hence why people can turn on the hide others around NPC. if anything im surprised this dude isn't ip banned or hardware banned

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Them being against lalafeels is racist which is against ToS. I heard or if i remember right they used to block important NPCs for quests. hence why people can turn on the hide others around NPC. if anything im surprised this dude isn't ip banned or hardware banned

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Okay. Where's the proof?

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Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost

I will admit, I do enjoy a good trolling about, sometimes. But no, a CPU and a GPU are not the same thing. I even googled it, to explain better than I personally could, for you.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...beadf9cd83cab&

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Noone here said a CPU and GPU are the same. I even mentioned my CPU+GPU combination on that post with the FPS examples. Not every CPU comes from Intel and is named i5,i7 ect.
Thats not even the point of this thread. While we were trying to make a point over something not related to this post this guy created another 10-15 alts and placed them left and right of the aetheryte.
Atm I can count ~75 weebopolice bots and maybe ~40 "normal" players gathered around the aetheryte. This is an issue. I'm not really an expert when it comes to graphics but knowing the average character has around 10k-15k polygons we can only assume this half naked botarmy has probably 7k-10k polygons per character and 595k+ in total.(7k*75= 595k)
For comparison, a fully rendered FFXIV map has around 300k-600k polygons. This guy alone is basically making you render whole new map on top of Limsa and the "normal" players which can end up being an issue for your CPU, GPU and RAM. We could argue about lowering the settings again but is it really worth considering with the game running perfectly fine without him?

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Noone here said a CPU and GPU are the same. I even mentioned my CPU+GPU combination on that post with the FPS examples. Not every CPU comes from Intel and is named i5,i7 ect.
Thats not even the point of this thread. While we were trying to make a point over something not related to this post this guy created another 10-15 alts and placed them left and right of the aetheryte.
Atm I can count ~75 weebopolice bots and maybe ~40 "normal" players gathered around the aetheryte. This is an issue. I'm not really an expert when it comes to graphics but knowing the average character has around 10k-15k polygons we can only assume this half naked botarmy has probably 7k-10k polygons per character and 595k+ in total.(7k*75= 595k)
For comparison, a fully rendered FFXIV map has around 300k-600k polygons. This guy alone is basically making you render whole new map on top of Limsa and the "normal" players which can end up being an issue for your CPU, GPU and RAM. We could argue about lowering the settings again but is it really worth considering with the game running perfectly fine without him?

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There is always lots of people in limsa. Whether or not theyre all the same guy is irrelevant. If anything when its all the same character they share the same textures and use much less vram.

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Originally Posted by YumieYumiki

There is always lots of people in limsa. Whether or not theyre all the same guy is irrelevant. If anything when its all the same character they share the same textures and use much less vram.

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Why is it irrelevant that they are all from the same guy? A single person trying to troll with free trial accounts shouldnt be one of the sole reasons why the performance in limsa drops by forcing a whole new map worth of polygons on you. If they were different players playing the game normally it would at least make the game feel alive.
That it takes much less vram is also not true. This works for grass, trees, certain npc's and other reused assets but not for player characters. We are talking about SE here - A small indie company.

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Why is it irrelevant that they are all from the same guy? A single person trying to troll with free trial accounts shouldnt be one of the sole reasons why the performance in limsa drops by forcing a whole new map worth of polygons on you. If they were different players playing the game normally it would at least make the game feel alive.

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You claimed that this person was single handedly responsible for tanking your framerate, and when confronted with the fact that limsa would be filled with players regardless, you are now trying to move the goalposts as unconspicuously as all these naked roes.

You dont like it, we get it. But your attempt at characterizing it as a crime deserving of punishment is laughable.

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That it takes much less vram is also not true. This works for grass, trees, certain npc's and other reused assets but not for player characters. We are talking about SE here - A small indie company.

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"I'm not really an expert when it comes to graphics" - your words. Absolutely every game engine ever will load only one single copy of a texture that is shared by multiple objects. It's basic, fundamental stuff.

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You claimed that this person was single handedly responsible for tanking your framerate, and when confronted with the fact that limsa would be filled with players regardless, you are now trying to move the goalposts as unconspicuously as all these naked roes.

You dont like it, we get it. But your attempt at characterizing it as a crime deserving of punishment is laughable.




"I'm not really an expert when it comes to graphics" - your words. Absolutely every game engine ever will load only one single copy of a texture that is shared by multiple objects. It's basic, fundamental stuff.

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Then go ahead and try it yourself. Blacklist them one by one and see how your VRAM used goes down drastically by around 400MB-500MB. You cant tell me a halfnaked vanilla character takes more than 20MB of your vram.

https://i.imgur.com/G6HjgSP.png
https://i.imgur.com/6Il4k6o.png

Even my FPS has improved from 30-45 back to 70-90 after blacklisting all of them. So yes.. this guy is the sole reason why the performance of my PC is tanking in limsa. This will ofc not last for long with this guy creating new alts every hour.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Noone here said a CPU and GPU are the same. I even mentioned my CPU+GPU combination on that post with the FPS examples. Not every CPU comes from Intel and is named i5,i7 ect.
Thats not even the point of this thread. While we were trying to make a point over something not related to this post this guy created another 10-15 alts and placed them left and right of the aetheryte.
Atm I can count ~75 weebopolice bots and maybe ~40 "normal" players gathered around the aetheryte. This is an issue. I'm not really an expert when it comes to graphics but knowing the average character has around 10k-15k polygons we can only assume this half naked botarmy has probably 7k-10k polygons per character and 595k+ in total.(7k*75= 595k)
For comparison, a fully rendered FFXIV map has around 300k-600k polygons. This guy alone is basically making you render whole new map on top of Limsa and the "normal" players which can end up being an issue for your CPU, GPU and RAM. We could argue about lowering the settings again but is it really worth considering with the game running perfectly fine without him?

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If they're such a problem why hasn't the very muscular police men been banned yet?

You know they DO ban people for doing something wrong right?

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Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost

If they're such a problem why hasn't the very muscular police men been banned yet?

You know they DO ban people for doing something wrong right?

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Oh so the people using plugins for PVP, Gathering, Crafting ect are not doing something wrong or why are they not getting banned?
Unless its something chat related SE is very slow when it comes to banning people.
Thats exactly the point of this thread. SE turns a blind eye on something thats wrong.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Oh so the people using plugins for PVP, Gathering, Crafting ect are not doing something wrong or why are they not getting banned?
Unless its something chat related SE is very slow when it comes to banning people.
Thats exactly the point of this thread. SE turns a blind eye on something thats wrong.

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I mean. "My frame rate dipping because many characters are in one location!" isn't valid grounds to report somebody you dislike. So...... Unless you have proof of actual harassment.....

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So yes.. this guy is the sole reason why the performance of my PC is tanking in limsa. This will ofc not last for long with this guy creating new alts every hour.

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He’s standing idle and is not even half as bad as the cacophonous bards (at least there’s a mute function) and dancing groups you can find on some other servers. Some servers have even more people in Limsa...

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I mean. "My frame rate dipping because many characters are in one location!" isn't valid grounds to report somebody you dislike. So...... Unless you have proof of actual harassment.....

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You are right. Its not a reason to report people because there are too many. That would be stupid.
But a single person logging in 100+ free trial accounts and letting them idle for 2 weeks straight on a already congested datacenter is a whole nother story. Let alone its done with some kind of third party program because no normal consumer brick on earth could handle 100's of xiv clients.

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He’s standing idle and is not even half as bad as the cacophonous bards (at least there’s a mute function) and dancing groups you can find on some other servers. Some servers have even more people in Limsa...

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He was letting 100's of characters idle there for weeks. Thats imo worse compared to a 10-Man Bardband that moves on to another server after 2-3 hours.


Apparently it was an issue. SE took actions and the bots are gone.

It would be a funny bit with a couple characters, but there's no "roleplay" reason to make >200 bots, that serves no function except to evade being blacklisted

20 pages? really? LMAOOOOOO

Now they're lying about it being hundreds. 20 pages of accusations and not a single instance of "proof" that can't be discredited or verified to be disingenuous...

I just want to know why, why all of this when you could just go hang out in grid or another servers limsa? Why force yourself into a bad mood when its so easily avoidable?