Revelations from Patch 6.2: Buried Memories

Something fun to note about getting to the max level with the Omicrons: On top of the Last Dregs NPCs now having different dialog, there's at least one random event that can happen in Elysion.

A Namazu wakes up from a nap, looks around the Grebuloff's section, convinces himself he's dreaming about hell, and goes back to sleep.

Specifically, it's the purple house in the Grebuloff area that he comes out of if the event is going to happen.

I assume it's just an extension of the gag referenced in flavor text for the wind-up Grebuloff minion.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

Something fun to note about getting to the max level with the Omicrons: On top of the Last Dregs NPCs now having different dialog, there's at least one random event that can happen in Elysion.

A Namazu wakes up from a nap, looks around the Grebuloff's section, convinces himself he's dreaming about hell, and goes back to sleep.

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Thats a cool little event.

Yeah I saw a clip of it in JP and he says where is this, who the heck the Grebuloffs are, wonders if they're the underground Namazu but blows off that notion and says they must be dreaming and leaves.

About the omicron quest

Since we have know newborn dragons who look just like our dragon babys I wonder if they are still just pure Dynamis or if these do possess more aether. Also would they be able to reproduce? (We will never find out)

The Namazu cameo bothers me at a lore level. Like, obviously it's a gag but it's still a gag event happening in the overall world of the game, making it a canon event, and how does that even work?

My off-the-cuff explanation: the WoL created that Namazu via dynamis and imagination because the Grebuloffs reminded us of the Namazu

Yeah. I also figured the Namazu was created by WoL.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

About the omicron quest

Since we have know newborn dragons who look just like our dragon babys I wonder if they are still just pure Dynamis or if these do possess more aether. Also would they be able to reproduce? (We will never find out)

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I would assume they are still Dynamis based beings.
For reproduction, I would think they can do so normally.
In the same way they are able to grow Dynamis crops.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

About the omicron quest

Since we have know newborn dragons who look just like our dragon babys I wonder if they are still just pure Dynamis or if these do possess more aether. Also would they be able to reproduce? (We will never find out)

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I would think

since Ultima Thule works mostly on metaphor and the regular rules of reality don't really apply, Dragons can hatch and reproduced if they believe they can.

Since it doesn't need two to tango for dragons and there is a fate chain in the zone dealing with baby dragons in the zone I'd have to assume Dynamis made ones could make more?

I love that two out of the three have been shown to hatch. If anyone is wondering where the 2nd one is its visiting the Karellian that's on top of the storage shed in the back of it. The Nibirun/Omnicron area is nice. There's an Ea and a Nibirun sharing a bench. The Ea says it's a nice spot for meditation which the Nibirum agrees. The Ea then asks them which thesis did they both want to tear apart.

I really enjoyed the Omicron questline. N-7000 and Jammingway were great characters, and I hope they do a combined tribal questline in the end. The item text on the gatherables was great this time around, especially on BTN. I really like how the bartender gives us a means to collaborate individual peoples back to many of the numbered worlds in Meteion's report, although Hena and the Nekropolis still seems to be a mystery. The writers were deliberately unambiguous about the story that they were telling in the final quest, and decisively reinforced their earlier statements about the Nibirun. I think this is going to be a really difficult one to top, although with the Loporrits up next it's still very possible.

With dynamis seeming to have miraculous potential well beyond what aether offers us, I wonder what will come of this energy source in future storylines. I suppose the fact that it isn't under anyone's conscious control is probably the balancing factor.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Since it doesn't need two to tango for dragons and there is a fate chain in the zone dealing with baby dragons in the zone I'd have to assume Dynamis made ones could make more?

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Would be nice for them to finally be able to live normally again.
There are quite a few great speech bubbles in Elysium. One of the Omicrons is even showing his dance moves to the Ea children (I cant spell their names). I do feel sad though that we cant see some dragons flying around their mountains.

I also wished that the cafe itself would have change a bit more. Maybe even using the outside parts of it. But I guess getting Elysium with all the changes and a huge change around the bar would be too much.

Yeah, I like the Omnicron and Nibirun talking about the Nibirun's tree. I noticed today that there are green and regular colored Elpis flowers on the bar counter. Along with Ea things that are in the shape of an Electron Microscope. And there saplings of the Omnicron trees. I wish we knew what civilization they took it from. It is a little disappointing that the cafe didn't spread out more from the one building. Though it is nice that it has a chance to grow bigger just not any time soon as both Jammingway and N-7000 predict that they'll get even more customers from other places at some point now that souls are no longer trapped inside of the Meteia's egg.

Idle thought that I don't think I've seen anyone raise before: now that we know that people can't die in the Thirteenth, that should mean that Unei and Doga's souls are still out there somewhere? Or merged into the Cloud of Darkness but still potentially retrievable, perhaps.

I guess their souls would be somewhere.

Do clones have souls?

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

Do clones have souls?

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I'm not sure. It's something I wondered about back when we got first shown the Solus clones. On how would they function. Course my string of thought was more about what personality would said clones have.

I don't think they would on their own unless they had one popped into them. Not that they wouldn't be able to live persay as we know things without one are able to do that. Which makes you wonder what exactly does a thing having one imply or why it matters. Except for memories occasionally becoming part of a soul.

Unei and Doga said something about them being unique among the clones because they had been given the will(?) of their originals, versus the mindless clones serving Xande. That might mean they have souls or the potential to acquire them like Alpha, if that is indeed what happened with Alpha.

What happened to the Cloud of Darkness though? She was just mentioned once and that's all. I remember after the fight encounter she was pretty active so I think we might encounter her again at one point.

elaboration on viera name lore dropped this heavensturn:

Far Eastern Omikujishi: Ah, I never did tell you my name, did I? It is “Morisoba,” at present. Though we Viera who have chosen to venture from our homeland are prone to changing our names on a whim, I'm a rather unusual case. I switch between twelve different names depending on the outlook of my fortune!

From the event's fortune-telling:

Adventure: Beware the shooting star, for it bringeth destruction

Relationships: A face from the past shall appear. Rekindle thy friendship


These are the only two that I felt have a deeper meaning than to be random lines.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

elaboration on viera name lore dropped this heavensturn:

Far Eastern Omikujishi: Ah, I never did tell you my name, did I? It is “Morisoba,” at present. Though we Viera who have chosen to venture from our homeland are prone to changing our names on a whim, I'm a rather unusual case. I switch between twelve different names depending on the outlook of my fortune!

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The "on a whim" bit is new, but we did previously know that they change their name when moving from forest to city, and – I'm not sure if it was stated or my own speculation, but I have in mind that maybe they change every time they shift situation or culture.

One thing that stands out to me is that they seem to take names from other races a lot. We've just had the one from the Starlight event with an Elezen-sounding name; there's one from a FATE chain in Labyrinthos with a Roegadyn name; and now this one with a Far Eastern name.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

What happened to the Cloud of Darkness though? She was just mentioned once and that's all. I remember after the fight encounter she was pretty active so I think we might encounter her again at one point.

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My general guess is that she didn't hold together long after that. We've learned there's a lot of nasty stuff that happens when a big voidsent that's fed on a lot of other voidsent dies, and the CoD of Darkness is probably the most extreme example of that.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

the CoD of Darkness

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The Cloud of Darkness of Darkness? Sounds a bit fishy...

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

What happened to the Cloud of Darkness though? She was just mentioned once and that's all. I remember after the fight encounter she was pretty active so I think we might encounter her again at one point.

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They mentioned that powerful voidsent are likely to be subsumed by the souls of the voidsent they've eaten before they can resurrect. We can assume the Cloud of Darkness is as "dead" as a voidsent can be.

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Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC

They mentioned that powerful voidsent are likely to be subsumed by the souls of the voidsent they've eaten before they can resurrect. We can assume the Cloud of Darkness is as "dead" as a voidsent can be.

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But she came back like...2 seconds after we defeated her fully formed and good to go.

Scarmilamadingdong did the same thing.

Cloud of Darkness was not mementoed and so SHOULD still be a big player on the 13th.

She was mentioned though during our first time seeing the elemental thrones. They use past tense when they speak about her.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

From the event's fortune-telling:

Adventure: Beware the shooting star, for it bringeth destruction

Relationships: A face from the past shall appear. Rekindle thy friendship


These are the only two that I felt have a deeper meaning than to be random lines.

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A face from the past, and rekindling the friendship...there's very few NPCs that meet that criteria, as I cannot think of any we left on bad terms with (who isn't dead) other than one. Laurentius Daye, that elezen who betrayed us with Ilberd. There was only an off comment about him in Stormblood with you making a decision, but he's never seen there. If there was any NPC we left on bad terms with who has the possibility of being alive, it's him. That is of course if "rekindle the friendship" isn't just meaning "catch up on old times."

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Laurentius Daye, that elezen who betrayed us with Ilberd.

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He's a Midlander actually, though with the rather thin face that doesn't get used much.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

He's a Midlander actually, though with the rather thin face that doesn't get used much.

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For some reason I keep thinking he's an elezen.