You guys have some very strange ideas about what sexualises something/someone. Nudity represents innocence. Even in the Christian bible, nudity represents innocence. Adam and Eve only decide they need clothes when they lose their innocence.
There is nothing sexual in the normal raid. Nothing at all. Moreover in the Savage raid Hraesvelgr makes an appearance, but not as Shiva's lover, as the other part of Shiva. They are joined as one not because they are lovers but because he literally devoured her - as she asked him to - so that their souls would be entwined eternally. There is nothing sexual inthe actual tale of Shiva and Hraesvelgr, except the lies promulgated by the Ishgardian inquisition who claimed Saint Shiva lay down with dragons.
Folks seeing this as something sexual are the ones with the problems. I never even noticed what Shiva was wearing in this fight, that's how 'shocking' it isn't. And I'm a mother and a grandmother. To be honest I see young girls of Ryne's age behaving far more provocatively on my way to work in the morning (I drive past a secondary school).
Eden 8 ( Spoilers) Ummm....Square?
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02-24-2020, 07:03 AMElladie
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02-24-2020, 08:23 AMEsther_MipharesIt's not a projection thing. Sometimes people have different beliefs on certain subjects. God forbid someone have a different opinion than you. But seriously, Snoo Bunny Bruh, don't accuse people of stuff like that. That's pretty messed up. It's the same as someone accusing you of being a lolicon for not caring and being okay with it. :UQuote:
Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi
Not that this really affects me, I cannot really care if Ryne gonna be skimp. Thancred should maybe do his damn job as a dad and punish her for her outfit! >:C -
02-24-2020, 08:29 AMAllegorThat...that's literally what's going on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther_Miphares
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02-24-2020, 08:32 AMEsther_MipharesThat was the point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
It's just a large circle of pointing fingers at each other! We're all the same! We're all terrible people, and accuse others of terrible things! OH THE HUMANITY! (/ T^T)/ -
02-24-2020, 09:51 AMhydralus
I like how everyone's up in arms over 'sexualizing' a minor, but kicking her ass is perfectly fine.
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02-24-2020, 10:05 AMAvidriaYeah that bothered me more than anything. The whole plan seemed foolish at best and I spent the whole time wondering why WoL was there like um yes this is Fine(tm) I got this I'll just hold back mhm :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hydralus
Like... what? Why does Ryne need to do this again? What does her little side explanation about showing Eden how to care for the empty have to do with letting herself become the physical embodiment of a re-imagined primal?? I mean congrats on showing Eden how to lose control and try to murder me, that's definitely not something that could come back to bite us. Brilliant idea. Glad the realm's best went along with it. :/ -
02-24-2020, 10:16 AMBarraindThats how the Shiva we know was summoned, so she thinks it might be required to summon an appropriate manifestation of it.Quote:
Why does Ryne need to do this again? What does her little side explanation about showing Eden how to care for the empty have to do with letting herself become the physical embodiment of a re-imagined primal?
Nobody really knows how any of this works, shes just kind of winging it. -
02-24-2020, 10:37 AMlinayI think it wasn't so much that they thought it was the only way to summon Shiva, but that hearing the story of how Shiva was summoned made Ryne think that maybe she could control the power if she is used as host and then she could teach Eden through their connection somehow someway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barraind
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03-05-2020, 10:20 AMLukaRoselia
You're playing a Japanese game and in Japan the legal age is 13. Get out of your stupid American laws and thinking everywhere is 18. It's a fricking game where people have flat sausage fingers.
Now please, go back to jacking off to your schoolgirl fetish porn. -
03-05-2020, 01:00 PMWyssahtynPeople keep parroting this, but the fact of the matter is that it's, in essence, a national minimum set in 1907 via the Japanese Penal Code that the various prefectures and municipalities can't go under. It's a hard limit and most, if not all, of the prefectures and municipalities have respective laws that up their respective ages of consent to the general range of sixteen to eighteen, some with caveats like parental permission as well. Even putting those aside, the Child Welfare Act of 1947 defines children as anyone under eighteen years of age (fun fact: age of majority (legal adulthood) has been twenty and has only been recently been lowered to 18 (6/13/18) and that law only goes into effect in April 2022) in Section 1 Definitions, Article 4 (この法律で、児童とは、満十八歳に満たない者をいい), and states in *Section 6 Miscellaneous Provisions*, Article 34 (1) (何人も、次に掲げる行為をしてはならない)。 (vi) (児童に淫行をさせる行為) that fornication/obscene acts with children are illegal (淫行 means fornication, harlotry, or obscenity). So in essence, if you want a basic, ignorant, narrow-minded view of the law, then yes, the age of consent is thirteen. However in reality, and in practice, it's higher than that depending on the specific jurisdiction.Quote:
Originally Posted by LukaRoselia
America has no federal age of consent unless it concerns taking, say, a nude selfie (pornography) and a couple other situations, in which case the age is eighteen across the board. Otherwise the age of consent to sexual activity varies between sixteen to eighteen across the states, with a majority having their age at sixteen. Even so, there are typically other factors to consider such as minimum ages and age differentials depending on the state. For example, a minimum age of sixteen might be set in one state, but with consent being limited to folks within a year of age of that minimum. So the sixteen year old can have sex with the seventeen year old, but it would otherwise be illegal if an eighteen year old were to engage in sexual intercourse with that sixteen year old. Or the state could just say, "no sex under this age at all", making it that everyone under, say, seventeen would be committing statutory rape if they were to engage in sexual intercourse.Quote:
Originally Posted by LukaRoselia
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03-05-2020, 04:52 PMRansom
Said this on another site but I'll repeat it here...
At some point Ryne and the player character are going to need to have a VERY awkward conversation...
Ryne: So, I don't remember when I was Shiva very clearly but... Was I... naked... at one point?
PC: Well, yeah, but-
Ryne: O... M... G...
PC: No, no, it's not quite that bad. See, there was a dragon coiled around you just right, so none of us actually saw anything.
Ryne: Oh. Well, that helps a little, but still...
PC: I know right?
Ryne: Let us never speak of it again.
And so they don't. Until a calm tranquil day two months later, when it suddenly dawns on Ryne that Hreasfalger technically got to second base with her... -
03-05-2020, 07:44 PMSigiriaThat line though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero24200
So fiction is irrelevant? Man you're one scary guy then. Because if that's your stance on fiction that mean that by just playing this game you admit being fine with: Violence, torture, murder, rape, human experimentation, drug use, drug dealing, thievery, moral abuse, racial discrimination, indoctrination, oppression and thanks to Hildibrand quest; exhibitionism.
All of the above have been portrayed in game, is any of those cool? Or maybe, just maybe, people have that amazing ability to tell the difference between what's real and what is not. Allowing them to take fiction as it is and not treating it like it has the same meaning as a real life situation that carry actual consequences to real people. -
03-05-2020, 10:46 PMEldevernThat's a good question. They take this fantasy world more seriously than some thrillers that describe tortures or worst... How this game can be more real than any horror movies some people like to watch? I don't get it. Hopefully Stephen King is not assimilated to what he writes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigiria
Some people need to do a step back and watch from a wider range. -
03-05-2020, 11:28 PMSei_Konsetsu
Man.. All of you getting your panties in a bunch over a digital girl in a digital world need to seriously take a step away from the game and think for just a moment at how stupid you sound trying to attach real world ideals in a game about flying dragons, talking cat men, nekos, and magic.
Its a dang video game people, it aint real and it aint gonna be mad that someone may have saw its digital bits. Seriously, unsure where this agenda is suddenly comeing from where seeing a charecter in a world that isnt reall equates to some form of pedophilia or anything in that direction. You guys need a reality check, cause man... This game world aint real. And even if you feel that way, millions of others don't, dont push how you feel on others, if it bothers you so dang much, put your hand over your eyes or something. -
03-06-2020, 03:15 AMlinayThat only happened in Savage, which is not the true encounter. So, the WoL will just keep that a secret from Ryne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ransom
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03-06-2020, 03:41 AMGranyalaThat's one lucky dragon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ransom
Way to go Hraesvelgr!