SE better do something or the game will drop dead

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Them flaming here instead of playing the game actually proves your point ;D

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or does it prove that people only have access to the internet at work and not their gaming pc which is at home

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or does it prove that people only have access to the internet at work and not their gaming pc which is at home

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So you're flaming on the forums instead of working?

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So you're flaming on the forums instead of working?

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Yes, my jobs that awesome ><

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Yes, my jobs that awesome ><

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Same thing I do all day at work, sans the flaming part. Read manga, read the forums, watch videos, with the occasional bit of programming, server stick poking, and other daily tasks.

Love having an office. :3

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So you're flaming on the forums instead of working?

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dont recall flaming anyone. oh wait, i forgot flaming means disagreeing in FF14 talk.

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So you're flaming on the forums instead of working?

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Not everyone has a job. How inconsiderate to leave the lazy and the unemployed out of this.

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Please, don't bring up the Titanic II SW:TOR launch here.

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You're making "Titanic II" jokes... on the *FFXIV* boards? All jokes, bias, arguments aside, from both, any and every side of the spectrum, you gotta admit, there's some ironic humor there!

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You're making "Titanic II" jokes... on the *FFXIV* boards? All jokes, bias, arguments aside, from both, any and every side of the spectrum, you gotta admit, there's some ironic humor there!

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FFXIV sunk before it made it out of the port.

And it didn't cost 3000000000 million dollars

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First off, I appreciate that you troll this thread, that makes this discussion popular, making SE not overlook at it so keep the good work.

Second I don't know if its you, your arrogance or that you cant see fatter than the tip of your nose and in fact respect another people opinions and share your opinion as well than try to push your ideal of the game and what you think is right and whats not to others....

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if i didnt troll people wouldnt bother to post their ideals and theories so happy to be of service and the second statement just confused me so yea....just going to walk off now lol awkward.......

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So you're flaming on the forums instead of working?

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i flame while i work thank god for my iphone with access to the internet

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xoo, you should know by now that any type of negative comment on anything involving this game is going to get you flamed. these bought and paid for se knights are going to get you now.

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finally someone learned because im coming for you the cole train is coming wooo wooo

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finally someone learned because im coming for you the cole train is coming wooo wooo

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do you think i really care what a troll does? i'll answer your question, cross your bridge, and you will go back into hiding under the bridge waiting on another.

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do you think i really care what a troll does? i'll answer your question, cross your bridge, and you will go back into hiding under the bridge waiting on another.

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i dont hide under bridges thats too old school i like to jump from out of bushes while your reading under a tree or jump out of the shower while your on the toilet something a lot more comical keeps the fans entertained :-D

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Originally Posted by Xoo

And as I said before, Yoshida's efforts have not maintained the playerbase, much less garnered any new blood to speak of. That is a fact and that is my point.

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In all fairness, while people have left due to *insert reason here*, there has also been an influx of new players as well. In the last week we have had at least 4-5 players join our LS that have started recently and are (in fact) enjoying the game, plus I have met others that have just started as of P2P.

Since you are not playing the game anymore and cannot see this, you cannot state that there is no new blood entering the game.

As a paying player who is in the game and can see the player base; yes, there is new blood entering the game.

So no, your above comment is not a fact; therefore you make your point moot.

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In all fairness, while people have left due to *insert reason here*, there has also been an influx of new players as well. In the last week we have had at least 4-5 players join our LS that have started recently and are (in fact) enjoying the game, plus I have met others that have just started as of P2P.

Since you are not playing the game anymore and cannot see this, you cannot state that there is no new blood entering the game.

As a paying player who is in the game and can see the player base; yes, there is new blood entering the game.

So no, your above comment is not a fact; therefore you make your point moot.

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it's funny you say this when we could see population before the payment began and after payment started and the population has declined. yes, a few new people are coming into the game, but more are leaving than are coming in.

it's bad when someone who is not even playing is more informed than the people that are supposedly playing.

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it's funny you say this when we could see population before the payment began and after payment started and the population has declined. yes, a few new people are coming into the game, but more are leaving than are coming in.

it's bad when someone who is not even playing is more informed than the people that are supposedly playing.

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Hey...
no f*cking sh*t!

There's people who have left because:

• They don't like the game;
• They don't like the game at this state (which means they might come back at 1.21, 1.22, 1.23 or 2.0);
• They don't feel like paying for an incompleted game;
• They can't pay for it because of money issue;
• They can't pay for it because of the payment systems.

Now tell me that you know about the whole situation, and if you do, bring in actual statistics about people leaving and why. Only then you can be credible.
At least Kai is saying what's happening inside the game, which you can't see because you don't want to pay/play. She has valid points to talk about and prove. You're basing your facts with assumptions, and these assumptions at each phase of the game (temporal line, or more detalied: patches) can be wrong in a high scale of risk.


Sorry if I say this, but it starts to spin my balls badly when somebody says something without actually proving it (in your case the fact that people are leaving the game). That only leads to miscommunication and people would live in ignorance.

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Hey...
no f*cking sh*t!

There's people who have left because:

• They don't like the game;
• They don't like the game at this state (which means they might come back at 1.21, 1.22, 1.23 or 2.0);
• They don't feel like paying for an incompleted game;
• They can't pay for it because of money issue;
• They can't pay for it because of the payment systems.

Now tell me that you know about the whole situation, and if you do, bring in actual statistics about people leaving and why. Only then you can be credible.
At least Kai is saying what's happening inside the game, which you can't see because you don't want to pay/play. She has valid points to talk about and prove. You're basing your facts with assumptions, and these assumptions at each phase of the game (temporal line, or more detalied: patches) can be wrong in a high scale of risk.


Sorry if I say this, but it starts to spin my balls badly when somebody says something without actually proving it (in your case the fact that people are leaving the game). That only leads to miscommunication and people would live in ignorance.

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no. see this is where you are completely wrong. i am not saying any one particular reason is why the population is still in decline. what i am saying and i already did is that "yes, some new players are coming into the game, but more are leaving then coming in"

that is not opinion. the population still going down is a fact.

the person they quoted did not say there was no new blood at all. they stated and i quote
"And as I said before, Yoshida's efforts have not maintained the playerbase, much less garnered any new blood to speak of"

neither of those are wrong. we do have new players coming in, but since the population overall is still in decline it's not maintaining. it doesn't matter the reason that those people are gone. the point is at the end of the day there's less players today than we had before payments began so the population is not maintaining it is still in decline.

"which you can't see because you don't want to pay/play" <<---- just so i can clear this up and keep you from looking foolish. i do play daily and i am paying.

before payment the population on karnak before payment began was around 200-250 on north american prime times. now the population is around 110-150. what other proof do you need that the population is going down still? yes, there are some new players that are getting the game and playing it, but there is a higher number of people leaving the game than coming into the game.

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no. see this is where you are completely wrong. i am not saying any one particular reason is why the population is still in decline. what i am saying and i already did is that "yes, some new players are coming into the game, but more are leaving then coming in"

that is not opinion. the population still going down is a fact.

the person they quoted did not say there was no new blood at all. they stated and i quote
"And as I said before, Yoshida's efforts have not maintained the playerbase, much less garnered any new blood to speak of"

neither of those are wrong. we do have new players coming in, but since the population overall is still in decline it's not maintaining. it doesn't matter the reason that those people are gone. the point is at the end of the day there's less players today than we had before payments began so the population is not maintaining it is still in decline.

"which you can't see because you don't want to pay/play" <<---- just so i can clear this up and keep you from looking foolish. i do play daily and i am paying.

before payment the population on karnak before payment began was around 200-250 on north american prime times. now the population is around 110-150. what other proof do you need that the population is going down still? yes, there are some new players that are getting the game and playing it, but there is a higher number of people leaving the game than coming into the game.

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Wait, are you talking about population right now? Because I'm talking about the population until 2.0 and beyond, those who are interested in FFXIV.
"Leaving FFXIV" in fact means that you're completely leaving it, not being interested. That's why I grew mad about your post. Still, think about people that will come back at 2.0 or earlier. Saying that Now people are leaving doesn't mean that In The Future people will not come back. We might lose 100s of players, but we might gain those 100s, and that's part of what SE is aiming with FFXIV if they want money. It's risky to say that people have left the game and the population will steadily shrink. It's not certain, that's all.

Do you get it now? They might lose 100s of players now, but they might gain 1000s of players in the future if they play their cards right, so please don't give these uncertain assumption to people. Saying that "200 before and 150 now" bullcrap is not sufficient to prove that the game population will steadily decrease.

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it's funny you say this when we could see population before the payment began and after payment started and the population has declined. yes, a few new people are coming into the game, but more are leaving than are coming in.

it's bad when someone who is not even playing is more informed than the people that are supposedly playing.

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Maybe you should read then, inform yourself, and actually understand my point.


Xoo specifically said:

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Regardless of how many have left (which is a fact and I never argued this point), the very fact that people ARE joining the game and there IS new blood coming in totally negates their WHOLE point which was 'there is no new blood to speak of'.

So where in my post am I uninformed? Oh wait I'm not, because I never said anything that isn't already known! /rolls eyes

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Because billing started and people are wondering what they're paying for.

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So are you guys like the oposite of Mensa? Your really going to use your own stupidity as a justification?

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dont recall flaming anyone. oh wait, i forgot flaming means disagreeing in FF14 talk.

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no your disagreeing but im flaming people left and right cause they want to argue something that is opinionated and as soon as you remind of that they pull up stats out of the sky O.o beware of the falling stats and projection from these none multi billionaire ceo's that evidently know what makes a game successful or a failure (shakes in his padded baby seal leather boots)

I can say this SE has never mentioned anything about merging servers. They would solve a lot of their population issues on the individual servers if they did this. It would also make us players a lot happier to have more people to play with.

Just bec this has been said before doesn't mean the OP cant express his opinions. If you do not like what he has to say then dont read the thread period. You guys are no better by repeating what each other say over and over again like a bunch of monkeys playing "monkey see monkey do". That gets just as old as making multiple threads concerning the same topic.

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I can say this SE has never mentioned anything about merging servers.

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And I can say you have no idea what you are talking about. It has been mentioned multiple times.

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And I can say you have no idea what you are talking about. It has been mentioned multiple times.

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Ok so where exactly did they mention server merges? Other than 2.0 which doesn't help people now.

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Ok so where exactly did they mention server merges? Other than 2.0 which doesn't help people now.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post492787

Guys did you forget the number of RMT's still playing the game in all the servers? Go co-mingle with them I'm sure they would like to "be friend" you and party with you. Now there's someone to play with... :P

You were warned. I gave you 7 pages to make your point but the people have asked and the people have waited. time to give the people what they want and just because you decided to personaly attack yoshida and his direction of this game no mercy.

to make it eaiser on myself let me post this first since this whole post will probably make these opinoinated people head expoled (BooOm)

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Ah, but this game certainly is like no other in the fact that it was released with very few ends in which to substatiate the need to go out and progress your character, save for the simple sake of grinding levels - if you find that experience fun. For those that don't mind it, or one of the few that actually look forward to it, what 'content' this experience amounted to was diminished with patch 1.18 and the onset of powerleveling and the linking system.

So you get there, to Lv50; Possibly you get all your jobs to Lv50 - and you do repeated Darkhold runs because there is an outstanding set of gear inside that fits the needs of all the jobs except Gladiator. Did you get it all? Let's say you did because you like the game, play often and want good gear. How much time (and headache, if you don't run with a static group) did that consume? For anyone, I can tell you it was days upon days. Come 90 days later, with 1.19, that gear is all for naught. The materia system. Twenty-four hours later, the question is, "What Darkhold?" - so it remains.

And for everyone with a Crab Bow +3? The dated gear/materia system and Ifrit. From these trends in development, I can't see how SE is even hopping on one leg as many times as they've shot themselves in the foot and their own attempts at content to the ground. Unfortunately, it hasn't been a single-action revolver, it's been a cannon that has taken players down with them.

This is why, in my opinion, I say they do not know what they're doing and do not hold much hope for 2.0. I doubt I'll even try it.

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I'm with you on one thing: Wasting my time trying to state the obvious to you. Yoshida's influence has not made the game better. The number of people still playing the game directly reflects this. Now, who's at the forefront of v2.0? That's right: Yoshida.

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What the hell do you mean you "prove your expectations"? What kind of statement is that? And as I said before, Yoshida's efforts have not maintained the playerbase, much less garnered any new blood to speak of. That is a fact and that is my point.

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It's funny that you give no credit to SE for ruining their own game. Viewpoints like mine exist because SE failed to fix, (and in some cases added to), major flaws in this game.

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why does he keep saying SE failed?:confused:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...574cb9c3991c9f


So first off you fabricated your own definition of fail(very cute but wont save you). Now lets be realistic SE at the release did not meet their projections or meet the expectations of thier players. in turn the development team was fired. Did SE....fail? Hell no, did the first development team fail yes.Thats why they fired them. Just like any job you have expectation that you have to meet and if you don't you get fired.(which proves that SE knows how to run a multi million dollar company). Then they brought in a whole new development team with Yoshida as the leader. The reason you even played this game is because of Yoshida and his determination to keep it alive and to put this game in the direction it needed to be in. now lets chop and screw these would-be opinionated post.

Evidently you have never been part of a developement team or created anything because i have to sit here and read post like "SE failed to fix(and in some cases added to),major flaws in this game."Lmao.....bruh this isnt your favorite perfect fit apple bottom jeans this is a game. no matter how much you try and fix a game there will always be flaws and things they will always have to fix. as you go through the process you make mistakes and you learn (thats life where do you live at)but since you brought up flaws 90.0% of them are opinionated(pop goes that bubble) because to determain what you call a flaw you have to have somthing to judge it with or against(please name a game so i can roast your further). just stating its a flaw because its this way or that way(which is all that rabble in the first post)but not stating why they did it and what would be consider not a flaw and the time frame it would take to implement it in the game is obvisiouly why you have the multi million dollar company and they are going to fail. Se has this or did that herp derp......yep you have plenty of evidence to prove your point.....(crushing dreams every where i go). for you to even prove half the crap your posting you would have to see thier acutal statistics not some made up projection you thought up because it sounded good in your head(if i use the word fail alot that will make my point valid....sounded better in my head....im glad where all not this dumb).

Then you had to say playerbase lol seriously dude you wanted this roast. i agree there has been a drop in players but to go as far as to say yoshida failed(bruh where do you buy your pedalstools from because from up there you look really big and everyone else really small) yet again another one of your very inaccruate made up projections. people come and go for whatever reason. they consider that when they develop their statistics and projections. guessing you never been in a buisness meeting before. so if they are goin with P2P they already figured out how they will survive without you and your buddies :-) lmao which makes your point pretty much invalid. also just to let you know your on an NA/english forum..... this doesnt make you think at all....i will give you some time......still nothing....??? The player base is Ea/japan!!! not america lmao you can tell that just by the forums. first off eveyones supposed projection of player base is biases that doesnt even include the real player base Ea/japan. then this is also another situation where having the actual statistics is required which.... you have none of. so what are we arguing that you guess this game is goin to fail (or use your definition) already failed.... nothing else no real evidence just a random thought and will be treated as such. i wouldve even given you credit if you stated some pros/cons, factual reasons, or at least a logical decription (that is not in the imaginary realm of perfection) of what you wouldve like to see but you didnt. its "im the player they shouldve had it done like this when i bought the game and since they didnt it failed". well why do you feel they shouldve had this done? is it because this is what they said was going to be there at the release? wake up call everything doesn't happen like you plan as you can tell with those subpar opinionated post.....but no where near makes it fail and thanks to the rest of the people in this forum i didnt have to post the actual producer letters, twitter feeds, dev post and outlines that prove what you would-be QQ'ers want is in fact already in development or been considered. so like a baby it cries all the time. you give it a bottle or you let it cry its self to sleep. QQ on, it aint goin to change a thing see you back at 2.0 (tucks QQ'ers under the covers)



P.S. glad does have gear in Dark hold....how long have you been playing this game again??? guess you dont include weapons and shields as gear.....

(OFFICIALLY ROASTED)




Karma 4 vs world 0

p.p.s SE send me someone with a opinion that they at least put some thought into(in the realistic realm) instead of i had a bad experience everything fails

TL;DR

(OFFICIALLY ROASTED)

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blah blah tl;dr

you have been roasted because i think i am awesome

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that pretty much sums up this whole post

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Maybe you should read then, inform yourself, and actually understand my point.


Xoo specifically said:



Regardless of how many have left (which is a fact and I never argued this point), the very fact that people ARE joining the game and there IS new blood coming in totally negates their WHOLE point which was 'there is no new blood to speak of'.

So where in my post am I uninformed? Oh wait I'm not, because I never said anything that isn't already known! /rolls eyes

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the to speak of is opinionated and does not say any at all. yes, a few new chars are coming in, but not enough to maintain the player numbers where they are. there is not enough to speak of when the overall numbers continue to fall.

i understand your point. too bad it's still wrong.

I'm not involved in this thread and people post the same tripe the always do.

That round table must be attractive.

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the to speak of is opinionated and does not say any at all. yes, a few new chars are coming in, but not enough to maintain the player numbers where they are. there is not enough to speak of when the overall numbers continue to fall.

i understand your point. too bad it's still wrong.

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/facepalm

If someone says there are no new people coming in, and there ARE people coming in how am I wrong? They never started how many, they never said there weren't enough coming in for it to be game saving. They said there were no new people coming in.

This is in fact wrong, therefore I am not wrong in my statements. If they wish to restate and say there are not enough people coming in to make a difference, or not enough to save it... etc, then yes they may be correct. But to flat out say there are no new people is not a correct statement.

You can dress it up any way you like, and I am not saying YOUR statement is incorrect. But it does not change the fact that the way they worded their post was incorrect.

Man, it really is true:

How People Discuss about A

Start discussion with A;
Keep discussing about B;
Discuss about C;
End discussion with D.

If you wanna talk about that, talk about the issue of players not enough to keep the game alive in another occasion =)

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that pretty much sums up this whole post

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....i never said i was awesome in that post i stated facts and threw in some comical comments O.o.... sad thing is i could argue the QQ'ers side just as well as the SE Knights. when you do a lot of debating you learn not to use your words so loosely it makes your argument easy to discredit. i honestly thought though xoo post where the most competent out of all the QQer's but still not on the level as the SE Knights.

lol and you sound mad bro...... head most of exploded since you have no other remarks

TL;DR
a term originating from forums and text messages in respons to ebscenely long forum posts or texts. means 'too long, didn't read.' the original use has died out however, and it is now only ever used by argumentative cunts who have been outargued and don't want to admit it. as such, it's current meaning (which would be the corrupted phrase) is 'can't think of an argument, gonna pretend i couldn't be arsed to read it.'

man 1: ...so yeah. learn your stuff, man, you're making yourself look stupid

man (?) 2: (thinks) shit, that's a damn good argument! i got nothin'! unless...

(types) tl;dr

Lmao just by posting this i just roasted 2 people

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=5067929

Karma 6 vs World 0

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TL;DR
a term originating from forums and text messages in respons to ebscenely long forum posts or texts. means 'too long, didn't read.' the original use has died out however, and it is now only ever used by argumentative cunts who have been outargued and don't want to admit it. as such, it's current meaning (which would be the corrupted phrase) is 'can't think of an argument, gonna pretend i couldn't be arsed to read it.'

man 1: ...so yeah. learn your stuff, man, you're making yourself look stupid

man (?) 2: (thinks) shit, that's a damn good argument! i got nothin'! unless...

(types) tl;dr

Lmao just by posting this i just roasted 2 people

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=5067929

Karma 6 vs World 0

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The world does not resolute around you. You're not the master of abbreviations. You're just flaming in a very very boring way.

My TL;DR was exactly because of that. I don't think anyone wants to waste his time reading a raging kid's wall of text. The first sentence completely summed up your intentions and reading any further was meaningless since your not trying to prove a point but only trying to troll someone.

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The world does not resolute around you. You're not the master of abbreviations. You're just flaming in a very very boring way.

My TL;DR was exactly because of that. I don't think anyone wants to waste his time reading a raging kid's wall of text. The first sentence completely summed up your intentions and reading any further was meaningless since your not trying to prove a point but only trying to troll someone.

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lol im a raging kid because your not smart enough to argue your own opinion..instead type Tl;dr because that makes you kool or maybe reading....nevermind...watever floats your boat kid i can troll because i know what i'm talking about and my trolling keeps the ignorant away (as you can tell it worked) but a lot less uneducated opinions saves me a lot of time. funny most of my responses have been about post with opinions but yours..........just talk about me lol i got a fan yay but seriously if your not posting an opinion i got nothing to say to you deuces

Fyi i linked you the definition of your abbreviations lol i come with facts you come with rebuttals that have no facts or at least witty or funny lighten up bro.....y so mad?

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Nothing magic about the amount of work they're putting into this overhaul.

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The way some people talk, it sounds as if they feel 2.0 is going to change EVERYTHING and magically become a new game. That's what I was referring to. Their efforts are commendable to say the least though, I agree.

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What about the actual dungeons and non instanced stronghold included with the new landscape. Then there's those new towns which are sure to have new quests. And that Crystal Tower they're apparently working on.

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Alot of that won't be coming until after 2.0 or will be introduced to the old world before 2.0 and then just brought over. I wish I could find the stinkin post where Yoshi talked about priorities and what not. I think it was one of the Dev letters. Either way 2.0 won't be too dissimilar from the current world before it launches.

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Those crowns and tools are the best of their kind. I'd hardly consider them to be of little reward.

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Yes that's part of the "little" reward I was referring to. Out of all the Achievements there are, only those few give rewarding substance of value. Even then, if you're not a gatherer, they are of NO VALUE. So truthfully they're only rewarding fro people that want to or can actually use them.

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Well, because it's not going to be there anymore. May as well see it before it goes away forever.

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ya but comon. You and I both know the landscape is about as drab and boring as MMO's come. There's really only a few caves and dungeons that have a unique look and color pallet to them.

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That's really more of an opinion than anything.

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You're absolutely right in that regard. It is opinionated, but it's the opinion of the general consensus, which kind of adds validity.

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How do you know this? I haven't heard much word on the actual skills available for jobs, so if you have a link I'd love to see it.

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Sorry, I'm the lazy type that hates finding links XD I know it's around here somewhere. Yoshi gave us a projected skills list for the jobs. Most of what was in that list seemed like recycled content, while only a handful seemed to have been freshly programed skills. If I find where it's at i'll link it here in an edit.

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Unrealistic thinking can go both ways. This game won't die. It might not be a super popular game. But it won't die. Not for quite a while at least.

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Ya I never said it would die, SE is too big to let that happen any time soon. I was referring to succeeding. It's tough to project financial success for an MMO that's had such a terrible start like this one has. History dictates that the first fiscal year is the most important one for an mmo. So while the game may stagger along, I find it tough to say that it's going to rise from the ashes like a phoenix and pull a 180 financially because that would require a miracle at this point.

That's why I said to not think of 2.0 as magical. Perhaps I should have said Miracle instead. 2.0 is in no way a miracle, but rather a step in the right direction. It's within the first 6 months of 2013 that miracles need to start happening if SE wants any shot at the financial gains they're expecting from this game.

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Originally Posted by Coldfire

The world does not resolute around you. You're not the master of abbreviations. You're just flaming in a very very boring way.

My TL;DR was exactly because of that. I don't think anyone wants to waste his time reading a raging kid's wall of text. The first sentence completely summed up your intentions and reading any further was meaningless since your not trying to prove a point but only trying to troll someone.

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just let the child keep talking. mommy will take away his bottle and get back on her computer soon. i just went ahead and put the child on ignore because i don't have time for them. i don't like battle of wits with unarmed opponents so i stopped responding to them.

WAY TO GO KaiKatzchen You just proved my point. Thanks for posting that.

Below are the main content additions planned for [SIZE="7"]AFTER[/SIZE] version 2.0.

Learn to frickin read.

Most of that isn't coming in 2.0 but in the long months after it. [SIZE="5"]NOT WITH IT[/SIZE]

Get your narrow minded head out of the clouds