Can us Alchemists get a dev response as to just what exactly we are supposed to use to break down clusters into crystals and a better way than fine sand to break crystals into shards? As far as many of us can tell, the new recipes do not address this!Quote:
Originally Posted by Camate
Revamped Recipes don't seem to follow the design plan
Clusters-Crystals-Shard Conversions
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03-08-2012, 10:58 AMFayette
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03-08-2012, 01:15 PMFlynnRider
I would have liked to been able to purchase items that I missed from other Grand Companies with my remaining guild marks.
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03-08-2012, 01:46 PMJustMy2Cents
I'd say slowly get rid of them. When I say slowly, I mean some system where you can exchange guildmarks for 2-3x more experience for some given time.
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03-08-2012, 02:46 PMTreach
I want different color swimsuits, like orange, yellow, purple, and pink!
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03-08-2012, 03:27 PMMiNuN
Very nice, looking forward to it.
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03-08-2012, 04:14 PMBiggs
I just hope that they dont give up on the guilds altogether, and it seems like they are moving away from using them. I always say them as a great potential launching point for more story, more cs's, job specific gear rewards, ect. yet they never really seem to utilize them for this. Seems like a shame, it was one of the few features in the original version of the game that I actually liked.
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03-08-2012, 04:30 PMTirionCreyAs if we deserve some special award for collecting guild marks.../facepalm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyra
They could take them out w/o giving anything in exchange, since we got all the skills from Marks by default, so what's the big deal? All we did to get those marks were leves and Class Quests...not as if wouldn't have done them anyway...
Some people are just way above their heads...you did nothing special to get those marks, so why would you deserve anything special in exchange?... -
03-08-2012, 07:51 PMMihanaIt's not so much expecting something special than a complete lack of creativity there. I'm disappointed they're getting rid of Guild Marks for good, they could have a special use later on. One suggestion I made a long time ago were special missions you could undertake by spending marks from a given guild. Reward could be a boosted amount of gil, or special items not obtainable by other means.Quote:
Originally Posted by TirionCrey
Hell, there's mention of special class specific gear being released in the future, why can't we just use marks to buy those? Marks are specifically mentioned as being a form of currency for special goods and services from those respective guilds, offering class (not job) specific gear via marks would suit that. Guild marks have so much potential but telling us "Oh you can have shards, crystals, or some clusters for these. Maybe some materia too." seems so lacking. Right now I have over 5-8K of every kind of shard, so I really have no reason to waste my marks on these. With the new job equipment being so much better than crafted double/triple melded gear there's not much use for materia. Even now the market wards tend to be overstocked with materia that people just don't want. So unless they offer some absolutely amazing materia (Something better than just stat boosting/aliment resistant materia.) in exchange, you're still better off not really wasting your time. -
03-08-2012, 08:36 PMTirionCreyThis would give people with more Guild Marks an advantage over people without them, or with less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mihana
Which pretty much implies that people who got more, want special treatment for getting those, compared to players who didn't get them cause they either didn't gather enough, or started too late when they were already gone.
Which brings me back to, "you did nothing special to get those marks, so why would you deserve anything special in exchange?... "
It's all about balance...you can't hand out cookies with those super tasty chocolate chips to those who happened to play earlier/more, while everyone else is getting nothing.
I agree that GC Seals would have been nice and would not effect the balance between people who had Marks, and those who didn't.
But if they would add CSE, or JSE for Marks that you can't get by any other means, that would effect the balance in a way where it's just not "fair" to other players. It would only be okay, if that CSE, or JSE had no stats at all that would improve your performance in said class.
It all comes down to "you did nothing special to get those marks, so why would you deserve anything special in exchange?... "
It has nothing to do with bad design, bad decisions or severe lack of creativity...
If you are told you will gain 1 lvl for a quest PLUS Marks to get abilities with and a few months later you will get those abilities by default and your marks are returned...how does that qualify you for any sort of "special" compensation? You did what you would have done anyway...now you want a fucking prize for it? -
03-08-2012, 10:45 PMDargoth_DraconiaNice thought but it would have to be like 1000 to 1 or more than that ratio, I got people in my LS that have like 250,000 marks in 1 craft alone. Whereas mine is like a total of 150k, they total out around a million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secret_Reeve
I too would like to see the GC seals or other items like even Ifrit or Moogle totems for an extreme amount. -
03-08-2012, 10:49 PMSehro
i want gil!!!!
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03-09-2012, 01:21 AMWynnYou got your wish ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Sehro
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03-09-2012, 01:37 AMCoombah
I rather they gave us company seals.
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03-09-2012, 01:41 AMWynnMe too actually. Then I could use more bonus xp manuals. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Coombah
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03-09-2012, 01:49 AMTirionCrey
I quit for around 6 months, didn't manage to get all my craftings done by that time, so now Fine Sand sucks, I welcome the Marks -> Shard Exchange Rate...shuld give me enough shards to get all leftover crafts to 50 :D
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03-09-2012, 02:08 AMWynnDepends on how much they are. If they are still the price the guilds were requesting, I'll pass and get gil instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by TirionCrey
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03-09-2012, 04:15 AMtachi
Patch notes have the exchange rates listed: 4gil per mark, about 60 marks for crystals 30 for shards?, and anywhere from 5~200k marks for materia of all types and tiers 1~4 included.
Ele potency's top the charts with 200k/per tier IV.
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03-09-2012, 04:25 AMWynnThe crystals are certainly cheaper than those greedy guild workers were trying to get. Still think I'd rather have the gil though, especially since I have well over a million guildmarks as well. Or I could just buy a bunch of low level materia and try my luck at getting more than just a double meld.Quote:
Originally Posted by tachi
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03-09-2012, 05:10 AMpythes
Fire Cluster 1,200
Ice Cluster 1,200
Wind Cluster 1,200
Earth Cluster 1,200
Lightning Cluster 1,200
Water Cluster 1,200
hmm is it just me or is that kinda wierd that they give you clusters to buy from marks but no new recipe to break them down -
03-09-2012, 05:12 AMWynnMaybe next patch there will be a use? Or maybe they are ninja adding some ALC recipes.Quote:
Originally Posted by pythes
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03-09-2012, 05:29 AMDrako
This has been a pretty big issue for awhile. Because of the inconvenience of how it is to break crystals down, I've more or less been going out and farming specific mobs that drop 6shards ea. for my shards. Its a lot more time efficient(999/90min or less) then going through the tedium of fishing up first, and breaking them down. Or going through the extreme long process of making fine sand. wish they'd do something about it ugg
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03-09-2012, 05:33 AMwolfsspirit
reading the patch you can trade them for materia ftw..... as if we need that . i was hoping for something usefull , like gear or something.
oh well