Jumping confirmed

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Going to be so funny to see complaints that Dragoon's jump is the only useful jump in this game.

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This ^ ......

unless they add platforming its a pertty pointless feature they can always make you walk/climb up stuff. that should be last on the list of things to do.

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Originally Posted by DNO

Does anyone go outside and call a big yellow bird and kill a 30 foot tall dragon with an axe.....

Really......really....... you are compareing f14 to real life......Really......really......

Jump is coming just let it be. You lost this one...

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I don't mind jump as long as i'm allow to turn it off so i don't see people jumping for no reason. Sorry i understand swimming or other stuff but jump just to jump? seem pointless to me.

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Originally Posted by Geesus

No just irritated this crap is what people felt was the most important thing needing to be resolved.

Oh and I'm sorry, because adding jump to a game is something new?! Just wondering, is this the best "fact" you have to validate why jump needs to be added? lol

When did this game become a platform game? Just wondering.

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Grasping at straws.

*Yes, you are mad.

*When did I claim it was new? You're basically saying you'd rather rent a VHS over a DVD. Sure DVD is pretty old but it's a hell of a lot better than VHS. It's good game design, the world's best (because they give players what they want) MMOs are proof enough of this. If you want to play a game that's designed like a ten year old title, go play one.

*The "less is more crowd" eh? Sure is crazy that I suspect Yoshida will add additional purposes to jump, such as making more engaging fights.

OK SE, YOU CAN PUT JUMP IN, IN EXCHANGE FOR NO STUPID MOUNTS! BUT MAKE IT WHERE YOU CAN'T JUMP IN THE CITY! thank you for reading!

What is the point of such a high and unnatural jump with so little horizontal momentum? Couldnt we just have something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDjMX...ailpage#t=791s

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

I don't mind jump as long as i'm allow to turn it off so i don't see people jumping for no reason. Sorry i understand swimming or other stuff but jump just to jump? seem pointless to me.

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Of course.

If jumping is to be implemented, then I want the option to turn it off. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why I should not be allowed to turn an animation that'll annoy me off. And if XIV becomes a MMOP instead of remaining an MMORPG, I'll quit also and have my credit card backcharge SE for every dollar I've spent on crysta because I bought & paid to play what was advertised to be an MMORPG, NOT an MMOP (which would be considered false advertisement... I wonder how SE would like to combat against that charge?).

nb4 some pro-jump advocate gets on my back like a tyrant demanding that I not be allowed the freedom to not see jump.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

about time they're going to add jump. i think its a bit too high though.

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You know what? It is too high. It's great we're getting it eventually, there's nothing more annoying then having to swerve around something in the way and yes that does still happen on a regular basis, but it doesn't have to defy physics either. Obviously it's still in the early stages and they've probably not decided just how high it will go yet. So there's hope.

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Originally Posted by ellohwell

What is the point of such a high and unnatural jump with so little horizontal momentum? Couldnt we just have something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDjMX...ailpage#t=791s

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Now, see, that? That looks lovely. I'd be more than happy if jumping were like that.

Seriously, a believable, non-silly looking setup like that.. and possibly a tiny little cooldown or animation lock on the end - and I'd be among proponents of the bloody concept.

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Originally Posted by Fensfield

Now, see, that? That looks lovely.

I'd be more than happy if jumping were like that.

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We had no point of reference in the videos we were shown, so we don't know exactly how high the jump was. That said, Yoshida himself said the jump was too high and awkward looking for him to approve. Chill everyone, they aren't gonna pass something that looks so weird.

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Originally Posted by Djeserit

We had no point of reference in the videos we were shown, so we don't know exactly how high the jump was. That said, Yoshida himself said the jump was too high and awkward looking for him to approve. Chill everyone, they aren't gonna pass something that looks so weird.

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Perhaps so, but all the same, my point stands. Jumps as they are in many 'generic' MMORPGs - that is, bizarrely high and largely spam-able - are very distasteful and jarring as far as I'm concerned.

On the other hand, that little video of Archeage illustrates a way of implementing jumping that I would not only tolerate, but get behind and actively support.

Besides I'm afraid there was a point of reference - the texture-less mesh representing the ground was rather more than the character's own height below it's feet. But yes, I'm very glad the developers pointed out that they themselves see that present concept animation as unacceptable for deployment.

i just watched the video.
The jump is a tad high, but the animations so far look good and can only look better once completed.
wtf is everyone crying over?
and if you say WoW consider this- WoW players do front flips, back flips and spins when you jump, however this is a very basic jump.

I don't think jumping is acceptable in its present state, however, if it is made to look more realistic, I would accept it.

There is one thing I need to add: This is an alpha version, and most likely a prototype. They are testing it to see if it is workable or not. If not, it goes out the window.

if they make the new maps require jump to get to some places, I'm up for this. if not, why even implement it?

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Originally Posted by Majidah

if they make the new maps require jump to get to some places, I'm up for this. if not, why even implement it?

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a lot of people prefer to jump over small obstacles rather than take the effort to walk around them. there is more effort involved in facing left or right then facing your desired direction again in comparison to just hitting the space bar.

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Originally Posted by Geesus

But not a MMO.

Xenoblade is no where NEAR a MMO! LMAO. MMO = Massive MULTIPLAYER ...Xeno is a single player game so no...not MMO like in any sense.

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Okay then, Aion, WoW, Flyff, DCUO, Guild Wars, and many other MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER online games have jump.

Xenoblade has pretty much the same gameplay mechanics as any MMO, without actually being online. Keep crying though.

It looks as teribad as I imagined it.

Alpha animations though, I'll give them slack for that but seriously please don't make it spamable...for the love of god please.

I think the jump animations look great, keep up the good work SE!

I've never seen so many people nag and complain over them implementing a jump feature.

"Can I have a feature to turn off jump so I don't see it spammed?" Really? And square is gonna cater this jump feature they are spending time implementing so YOU can't see it. Wow, people amaze me

My only complaint with adding a jump feature is that while it is in most MMO's it is not in any of the main Final Fantasy titles. The dev's constantly stress that the game should have a FF feel to it, and this might detract from that a bit. I just hope that if they do add it that it won't make the game look cartoonish.
On a side note I wonder how this will affect the jump ability of the dragoon?

^^^^^

I really wish people would stop with the "FF feel" thing. XI was an old MMO. Come on people, they gotta move on.

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Originally Posted by KaynelD

My only complaint with adding a jump feature is that while it is in most MMO's it is not in any of the main Final Fantasy titles. The dev's constantly stress that the game should have a FF feel to it, and this might detract from that a bit. I just hope that if they do add it that it won't make the game look cartoonish.
On a side note I wonder how this will affect the jump ability of the dragoon?

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One is utterly useless and the other is useful.

jumping interaction i'm all for. need to vault over that fence no problem walk up to it and interact with it, need to scale that ledge no problem move up to it and interact with it.

i DO NOT want the dumb ass space bar jump, which serves no purpose but to piss more mature non Ritalin injected players to the breaking point.

How does someone jumping piss others off?

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

jumping interaction i'm all for. need to vault over that fence no problem walk up to it and interact with it, need to scale that ledge no problem move up to it and interact with it.

i DO NOT want the dumb ass space bar jump, which serves no purpose but to piss more mature non Ritalin injected players to the breaking point.

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LOLOLOLOLOL

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

I've never seen so many people nag and complain over them implementing a jump feature.

"Can I have a feature to turn off jump so I don't see it spammed?" Really? And square is gonna cater this jump feature they are spending time implementing so YOU can't see it. Wow, people amaze me

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and I have never seen so many people nag, wanting a pointless feature to an MMORPG, the key thing to look at is does FFXIV "need" jump, and the answer is no, there for the decision should have been clear and easy.

You don't "need" anima and teleporting either but we all can't have our way.

Why add anything to the game, someone insecure might get offended by it and demand an option to turn it off/not implement it at all. Get over yourselves.

Guys. I want you all to take a step back. Take a breather. Now realize this is an almost 200 page topic about jumping.

Seriously, only in this forum do the smallest things get put under a microscope and proclaim it to be the downfall of the game.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

and I have never seen so many people nag, wanting a pointless feature to an MMORPG, the key thing to look at is does FFXIV "need" jump, and the answer is no, there for the decision should have been clear and easy.

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Did you not get the hint that we will have zones and stuff? I don't see what the problem is. I could care less either way, it doesn't affect me the least bit if someone is spamming jump. I mean people spam /laugh all the time, you don't see me b****ing about that on the forums.

OH WAIT DON'T ASK FOR A COOLDOWN FOR THAT TOO

Lol this community just seems so pathetic, I mean really? Crying over jumping? GG guys, gg.

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

You don't "need" anima and teleporting either but we all can't have our way.

Why add anything to the game, someone insecure might get offended by it and demand an option to turn it off/not implement it at all. Get over yourselves.

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are there platforming elements in FFXIV? no, jump is not needed
are there vast distances to travel? yes, faster modes of travel are required

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

are there platforming elements in FFXIV? no, jump is not needed
are there vast distances to travel? yes, faster modes of travel are required

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Oh I didn't know you were in the 2.0 alpha. Travelling faster is not required.

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

Oh I didn't know you were in the 2.0 alpha. Travelling faster is not required.

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now you are just being blind.......

and you are right, no I am not in 2.0 alpha, or any of the sort, so they might be redesigning the zones with platforming in mind, and there for jump in turn would be "needed", still does not change the fact that adding platforming into a MMORPG is a pointless talk and a waste of time.

as of right now though, FFXIV does not have platforming elements, and does not need jump, so if they do add it, atleast better not be till 2.0

I'm not the one getting bent out of shape over it. Point is nothing is needed, it's wanted.

"F: Q: it's not mentioned in the 2.0 docs but whats going on with jump or swimming?
Y: For 2.0 we are remodeling all the maps so it requires lots of checks, so we’re talking about including this with 2.0"

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post429022

Add delays to jump so cities wont be a Frogville!

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Originally Posted by Buddhsie

How does someone jumping piss others off?

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This.
I can't fathom the idea.

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Originally Posted by Tombah

This.
I can't fathom the idea.

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Not very good at looking from another persons perspective then I guess...let me follow suit.

Personally I find that rampant jumping is silly, I can't fathom the idea of someone actually enjoying it.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Not very good at looking from another persons perspective then I guess...let me follow suit.

Personally I find that rampant jumping is silly, I can't fathom the idea of someone actually enjoying it.

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Constantly jumping isn't a matter of enjoyment, it's a matter of boredom more often than not. The human mind wants to always be active, even if its moving your thumb up and down to jump constantly.

People want to jump. The developers want the players to be able to jump. We will be able to jump.

In the words of the collective FFXIV community: "If you don't like it get out!"

personally i think jump should be for Dragoon only.