SIGN if you Hate PVP GC Restriction & Want Change

WoL vs WoD

allow players to chose a side in the MSQ and have World of Warcraft inspired pvp with Frontline-ish functions

it's lore friendly, allows for advanced story telling (can still be on rails), and gives players (at least) the feeling of being in control of their character's destiny.

Lore went out the window when they added seize...

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Originally Posted by Onikimaru

If this doesn't tell you that this system NEEDS to be removed i do not know what will.
And this is the queues even with the new mode out, just remove it already i want to actually play pvp.

http://i.gyazo.com/5358e0a6cc23affaf537defa8b3f98cc.png

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do you know what would be better?

If they would remove duty finder server restrictions for pvp..

as i know the duty finder for PVP just searchs for players on your server/datacentre wheras for pvm content there are no limitations and searches worldwide.. isnt it like that? i think much more that this is the bigger deal than just having GC restrictions.

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Originally Posted by BannedatRegistration

WoL vs WoD

allow players to chose a side in the MSQ and have World of Warcraft inspired pvp with Frontline-ish functions

it's lore friendly, allows for advanced story telling (can still be on rails), and gives players (at least) the feeling of being in control of their character's destiny.

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As if the Final Fantasy Online series arent already poisoned enough by shitty WoW features..

if you ask me the best would be a seperate openworld pvp region with a keep to raid on in specific time frames... no waiting queues.. problem solved. im sick of this instanced bullshit crappiness.. playrounds, waiting queues, too long queues.. etc.. WoW had overdone this quiet much.
i came from Dark Age of Camelot, where it had 3 factions and 3 frontline openworld regions just for PVP and which have been seperated from PVM.. and the PVP system in DAOC was the best about the whole game.

btw. this once was a concept art of FFXIV PVP before ARR was even in beta:
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/pictures2011/ffxiv-025.jpg

one keep, siege weapons, many players..
i dont want to play capture the flag in playrounds. i want to conquer keeps and to fight a war. but wont happen since FFXIV became a boring WoW clone.

So... new PVP mode has been out 3 days, and plenty of people I know want to play but they're just sitting in queue wasting their valuable end-of-work-week free time. Like I was a little while ago until I gave up and quit. Brand new content that lots of people want to play, and they can't do it because the stupid GC restriction won't let a match start for people within a reasonable timeframe. And I wouldn't call 20-30 minutes 'reasonable' when you're talking about sitting around in a video game waiting on the game you're actually trying to play vs. the waiting game to get into it. Sometimes queues have been ok this week but you have to remember this is 3 day old content at its peak when it comes to demand, and it will only get worse. People queueing up don't fit into 9 convenient groups of 8 balanced evenly across all 3 GC's and so of course when every match starts there are going to be people left out when otherwise they could have been playing- which is what we bought the game and pay a monthly subscription to actually be able to do.

we just want to play with multiple friend and have decent queue =x

Almost to 200!

SE, what are your plans to fix this issue?

Why do you oppose your PVP players so much?

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Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff

Almost to 200!
SE, what are your plans to fix this issue?
Why do you oppose your PVP players so much?

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Would like to see a link with SE stating they are opposing PvP players because they won't change their idea on what PvP is going to be in a game where PvP is a weak idea to begin with.

Just give us the option to queue without being GC locked. FFS, WoW is making it to where faction doesn't matter anymore.

You can casually mention that the battles are happening, but when story gets in the way of player happiness, story takes a backseat.

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Originally Posted by Nghthawk

Would like to see a link with SE stating they are opposing PvP players because they won't change their idea on what PvP is going to be in a game where PvP is a weak idea to begin with.

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PvP doesn't HAVE to be weak. That is the whole point. The could even use existing assets to expand PvP. Toss some nodes around the original frontlines map, BAM, 2 maps for secure. Take Ul'dah and instance a section. Bam, street fight mode. I realize there is more to it then that, but it CAN'T be more effort then making three new dungeons, 4 raid turns, and a pile of main story every major patch. Give us a patch with 2 new dungeons and real PvP improvements?

I agree with this 100% . I would like to get my Field Commander's Coat sometime before the fourth expansion please.

The queue takes forever, I can not (wont) wait in a queue for 90 minutes, just so I can do a PvP match. FFXIV dropped the ball hard with the PvP in this game. If SE wants to save the PvP and make it worth grinding those new armour set, this has to happen:

1. Remove GC requirement. They look fine on papers, but ingame its a disaster. I reckon the moment they drop this, we will see fast queues and alot of activity in the PvP scene.
2. Make PvP more like ESO and GW2 and less like WoW. Capture the flag is dull and a snoozefest, give us keeps/lands etc to conquer and make it so keeping those keeps and lands will give your character certain perks, like more experience while killing stuff, gathering stuff or crafting stuff.

I used to be a huge PvPer, but since I came to FFXIV, I have only tried 5 times and 4 out of the 5 I quit, because of the long queues.

Here is a easy to bypass the lock: "The 3 Grand Companies are holding a training match, but it seems X has less participants on their side, we need you to fill that spot" The X can be the grand company that is lacking players.

Really what do we have to do to get a response, entitle a thread with how do I pay for subscription or do you require all the planets to align before you can?

204 likes! 171 posts, this problem is not just na/eu its also felt by the jp community!

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Originally Posted by Laerune

2. Make PvP more like ESO and GW2 and less like WoW. Capture the flag is dull and a snoozefest, give us keeps/lands etc to conquer and make it so keeping those keeps and lands will give your character certain perks, like more experience while killing stuff, gathering stuff or crafting stuff.

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Funny thing is, even WoW has pulled off better a couple of times, and still does in my opinion when it comes to PvP. The only thing that resembles WoW is the very base watered down "Queue for your match" type system. But there have been things like Tol Barad and Wintergrasp that unlock entire raids for your faction if you win them, and are just part of the actual world. Not an instanced off map. Everything you're saying they should do, WoW has already done. If anything, the diversity WoW has had in PvP beats GW2's, by far.

But I sign. At the very least make it so that you keep your PvP rank is you switch GC's. I don't know many people who want to grind out 500 matches just to get back to the rank they were at in the other GC.

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Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff

Lore-Argument Excuse is GARBAGE!

If I want to RP as a mole or align myself with a different GC, I should be able!!! I already do participate in each frequently throughout the main story.

Also, my FC has an allegiance with a certain GC which may be different than my own... so I can already technically be participate in multiple GC's at once.

Not only that, story-wise, I'm friendly/have preexisting, strong relationships with all three GC's. I'm THE WARRIOR OF LIGHT.

I should be able to side with whom I please as I already have through the story numerous times over.

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+1000 for you dear sir, and finally the "lore doesn't allow it!" argument is PWNED and destroyed. WE NEED GC RESTRICTION TO LEAVE, LEAVE NOW... KICK IT FROM PARty!

Signed, this lore argument is pure garbage....

And now that we are at this, can we get rid of the stupid chat restrictions please?

They could just remove pvp altogether, it's not a relevant part of the game anyway...

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Originally Posted by bettomendes

They could just remove pvp altogether, it's not a relevant part of the game anyway...

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Some of the best glamour sets in the game, really fun if you know what you are doing. Nothing in this game is a relevant part of the game anyway, you could get rid of anything you want and the game will still be a game.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

Nothing in this game is a relevant part of the game anyway, you could get rid of anything you want and the game will still be a game.

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Good idea, let's all quit! :D

I loved the GC restriction at first seeing as the borderlands ruins were featured in the story but ...seal rock just dropped out of thin air, with no story or anything, we are all part of the eorzean alliance, and we've basically been psuedo members of every GC anyway cos they treat us like slaves...so just ...sort this out please!

Additionally I'm confused on how the Duty Finder sorts and pulls players for matches; My two friends are Maelstrom and we all queue for Seal Rock at the same time - yet they always are together in the same matches and I am never pulled in at the same time as them even when they are short teammates and I queue in progress. (I'm Maelstrom as well.)

Why is that? If the GC restriction is really in place because there are issues with the flexibility of the Duty Finder shouldn't the dev. team try to address that issue rather than applying arbitrary restrictions to mask it?

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

Signed, this lore argument is pure garbage....

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Signed too. And i really don't like the three team, i mean being attacked by both team and finish the game 3rd because you was just in 1vs2 the whole fight...

Fix the queues, fix PVP!

Still no dev response for this? Weird.

They didn't respond to any of the bazillion RMT threads so I'm not holding my breath, but still hopeful.

This still needs to happen.

Agreed, add a "mercenary" system if you want to keep in line with lore. The restriction and excuse are both bad and ruin pvp for a lot of players.

/sign

Not because I care about PvP or anything... but because GC restrictions are obviously a stupid idea and the #1 reason PvP is next to non-existent in this game.

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Originally Posted by Kayote

/sign

Not because I care about PvP or anything... but because GC restrictions are obviously a stupid idea and the #1 reason PvP is next to non-existent in this game.

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I'm rather skeptical about the #1 reason thing lol. The vast majority of players attracted to the FF name are here for the PvE and have zero interest in PvP. With the lack of PvP variety and the fact that there's only one map for 60 right now, there's going to only be so much that people will find interest in. Add to that the fact that Slaughter was one of the closest moments the game has gotten to garnering interest by that PvE-only crowd, and that's been sidelined for now, well... there's just more substantial reason why participation is next to non-existent. I'd say the GC restriction is #3 or #4 on the list.

Waited in queue 80 minutes today for FL Roulette... Seize is still fresh & queues are exceeding 1 hour on Aether... SE WE NEED REFORM.

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Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff

Waited in queue 80 minutes today for FL Roulette... Seize is still fresh & queues are exceeding 1 hour on Aether... SE WE NEED REFORM.

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You are very likely in the strongest GC if that's happening, or playing at weird hours like 3am. Queues for the underperforming GCs are much faster (but you can expect to chain lose).

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Originally Posted by Kayote

/sign

Not because I care about PvP or anything... but because GC restrictions are obviously a stupid idea and the #1 reason PvP is next to non-existent in this game.

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the GC restrictions means = huge queue = why bother? = less ppl more queue = at the end no one bothers = dead pvp....

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

You are very likely in the strongest GC if that's happening, or playing at weird hours like 3am. Queues for the underperforming GCs are much faster (but you can expect to chain lose).

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Maelstrom. Lowest population.

It's cause Flames mostly roll premade-only & on their time table.

Generally shafts much of any PVP from happening during non-peak.

During low-queue windows, the system should slot into own or random GC according to data center GC-PVP Member count. A fair compromise.

Please please please remove the GC restrictions.

I haven't done pvp but the restrictions are just stupid. People should be able to pvp together without being in the same gc.

I kinda wish we had a answer from SE at this point

I just want the Qs to be quicker . Keep rewards as they are, if we want them we must make a pre made party with people of our GC.

SIGNED.

I wouldn't mind more around the clock queues either.

Queues on Primal are practically dead during the early morning.

http://i.imgur.com/3kyq0uD.png

Why can't they just allow people who have ranked up all three Grand Companies to choose which they want to represent in a pvp match?

Oh man, imagine how much better the queues would be if instead of purely queuing up with your grand company, you could just queue up for the sake of filling three teams!

I love pvp, but on my server the Mael and the Twin Adders have far more members than the Immortal Flames. My friend queued up in 5 minutes while it took me on the adder's side 28 minutes to queue. Dx