Famitsu FFXIV vol 1 summer 2011

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08-02-2011, 10:10 PM
Spellbinder

Might be just me, but I feel uneasy about them adding more "individuality" and restrictions to the armory classes. I thought the point of the armory was to mix and match while jobs were for defined roles... /sigh
08-02-2011, 10:19 PM
Sephr

The classes are too similar right now, there's a difference between customisation and everyone being the same because all the skills are virtually identical.

I'm all for a more rigorous structure to allow people to do what they want whilst maintaining some boundaries. Take guild wars 2 for example, they're pretty restrictive on the number of skills you can pick, but there are various opportunities to customise and design your own builds etc.
08-02-2011, 10:23 PM
AugustHereux

I guess noone has gotten their hands on the actual magazine yet? Would be nice to see if there was any alleged artwork in there! Would love to see the concepts on the area reforms, although im not holding my thumbs for them to disclose that kind of info!
08-02-2011, 11:01 PM
Genz

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Might be just me, but I feel uneasy about them adding more "individuality" and restrictions to the armory classes. I thought the point of the armory was to mix and match while jobs were for defined roles... /sigh

The armory system is dead and buried because of and by the players. The system is going to change, even though it keeps the name.
08-02-2011, 11:26 PM
Fated

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Originally Posted by thenewzero

Thanks for the translations Reinhart!

Really excited to hear they are planning on releasing the new Classes when Jobs release. It'll be nice to have another mage Class in the game. Still looking forward to more info about Jobs though.

You don't read well, they said they are releasing the new classes when the initial Jobs are BALANCED. This could take a long time after they are first released quite honestly.
08-02-2011, 11:37 PM
Spellbinder

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Originally Posted by Genz

The armory system is dead and buried because of and by the players. The system is going to change, even though it keeps the name.

And it makes me sad to see it die a slow and painful death with every patch.
08-03-2011, 12:16 AM
Libtech

Thanks for all the translation work. A lot of it seems pretty interesting to say the least.
08-03-2011, 12:24 AM
Tezz_Xivectro

TY Reinheart, you're the best. Can't wait to see more translations.
08-03-2011, 12:47 AM
Reinheart

If you guys are in the US you guys can try sanseido (JP bookstore here in cali, they ship within US) the link is... ehh

sucks... i just checked and they took away ISBN search so you have to call and order http://www.mitsuwa.com/tenant/sanseido/eindex.php?s=3 if anyone wants it can try there.

Ohh this one should work another store here in cali that can get magazines from overseas. Kinokuniya http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/indexohb.cgi?AREA=03

ISBN for the magazine is 978-4-04-727431-0

just search that in the JP books or if you call Sanseido and they should be able to locate it by that. Or you can say Eorzea Tsushin 2011 Summer Vol 1

Hopefully they got it today... gonna call them later to see if they have and pick it up later.
08-03-2011, 01:21 AM
Burne

Cant believe its been so difficult to find pics or any info on google lol. They must have people workin round the clock pulling images down or silencing websites lol

Thanks Reinheart always appreciate the translations and investigations lol
08-03-2011, 01:51 AM
Reinheart

JP bookstore told me over phone they don't have... orz
It's special eddition book even though regular series is considered magazine so have to special order... I F'ing went to the store on Saturday to have them look it up and they told me it's gonna be in today.... F'ing B029083409540988348503485-324850 83-485-9032485983249582485903458-32485-834

(ノ｀m´)ノ ~┻━┻ (/o＼) お父さんやめてー

called all 3 stores I know here and they all don't have... orz
08-03-2011, 01:52 AM
Munba

So you ordered it today Rein?
08-03-2011, 01:59 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by Munba

So you ordered it today Rein?

If I order from the store gonna take at least a week so dunno... online is about the same also unless they send individually, most of those send in bulk to the local stores in US then distributes from US to domestic so it takes time.
08-03-2011, 02:02 AM
Burne

Hmm Im in NYC theres a JP bookstore not far from me now that I think about it...Kinokuniya I'll check there during lunch
08-03-2011, 02:05 AM
Airget

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Originally Posted by Sephr

The classes are too similar right now, there's a difference between customisation and everyone being the same because all the skills are virtually identical.

I'm all for a more rigorous structure to allow people to do what they want whilst maintaining some boundaries. Take guild wars 2 for example, they're pretty restrictive on the number of skills you can pick, but there are various opportunities to customise and design your own builds etc.

I think the issue he has is the lack of actually being able to wear whatever you want since they are beginning to limit certain gears to certain classes. I think a good remedy to that would be to create a new gear list of "town gear" that you change into whenever you go into town. Since when you equip armor it doesn't leave your inventory I feel this would be easy enough to pull off.

As for the aspect of unique classes though I do agree that it did turn out that you are either a Marauder with Pugilist skills of a Pug with Mar skills. Basically you are either specialize with an axe and use staple abilities or you H2H with staple abilities. Though with the release of "jobs" it should give it since it will limit what abilities one can use and even grant access to new ones.

Though overall what would make jobs more interesting would be if every class could use any job they gain and have then have generic abilities and "main" abilities learned. Basically a Lancer DRG would be able to use Jump, Leap and High Jump but any other class use the "job" DRG would only be able to use leap.

Though until they actually give us a true taste of the job system it's hard to say how it'll actually go though hopefully they will make THM a RDM instead of BLM since they did seem to mention that had WHM and BLM planned for the job system though with the abilities THM makes it doesn't really make sense for them to be BLM.
08-03-2011, 02:21 AM
Tezz_Xivectro

You'd think we'd be able to communicate with the JP forum and stay in touch with one of us through IM/email for the purpose of scanning & translating. Must be hard convincing someone to go through that trouble since nothing is in it for them?
08-03-2011, 02:21 AM
SuzakuCMX

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

JP bookstore told me over phone they don't have... orz
It's special eddition book even though regular series is considered magazine so have to special order... I F'ing went to the store on Saturday to have them look it up and they told me it's gonna be in today.... F'ing B029083409540988348503485-324850 83-485-9032485983249582485903458-32485-834

(ノ｀m´)ノ ~┻━┻ (/o＼) お父さんやめてー

called all 3 stores I know here and they all don't have... orz

Needs more OTL and less orz.

EDIT: orz makes you look lalafell sized.
08-03-2011, 02:46 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

You'd think we'd be able to communicate with the JP forum and stay in touch with one of us through IM/email for the purpose of scanning & translating. Must be hard convincing someone to go through that trouble since nothing is in it for them?

That's kind of hard + scanning everything and giving info to wrong people might end up with copyright problems and all that. Last JP interview post with the guy posting info for us got in trouble since he almost posted the whole thing on there... what he did was nice for NA + other region players (+me too lol) but he got bashed by stupid trolls in the JP thread saying he should get reported and get punished etc... was stupid what the trolls were doing but felt sorry for the guy.

That's one major problem in the JP forums... rather than talking about the game FFXIV they get into all these other problems about their real person status, or by revealing their character level, name it's going to give bad rep in the game and would make them quit, leave the game... Really just want to tell those stupid F's to shut the F up and enjoy the game and post your honest responses instead of being scared to post what you feel about this game in these forums without hiding your identity (game char) 2CH famous for bashing people who post journals in Lodestone also, they also used to bash players in HNM linkshells back in FFXI days.
08-03-2011, 02:48 AM
Eekiki

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Thinking about Thief also.

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
08-03-2011, 02:52 AM
Betelgeuzah

Healthy society indeed.

I wonder what it took from the developers to open up. It still seems that aside from Yoshida...they'd rather not.
08-03-2011, 02:54 AM
Eekiki

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Adjustments to battle to make battle duration for same level mob should be about 40 seconds each battle, if good gear about 30 seconds each.

30-40 seconds per battle is too much time. Should be no more than 20 for a monster that's the same level UNLESS you're going to balance SP appropriately.

I hope they also take downtime into account. It won't be fun if we have to stop every few fights to stand in place for 2 minutes waiting for our HP/MP to recharge.
08-03-2011, 03:12 AM
SuzakuCMX

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

30-40 seconds per battle is too much time. Should be no more than 20 for a monster that's the same level UNLESS you're going to balance SP appropriately.

I hope they also take downtime into account. It won't be fun if we have to stop every few fights to stand in place for 2 minutes waiting for our HP/MP to recharge.

Or maybe they'll give us a way to "grind" levels that isn't an actual grind.
08-03-2011, 03:13 AM
PandaTaru

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Some tidbit info on this 2ch thread: http://kamome.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/...1312216045/l50

Mmmm... FFXI... I kind of wanted to try cap everything in future... orz most likely talking about post R50

This guy responding to the one above about crafter.

How to turn a rant into an affirmation... lol.
08-03-2011, 03:16 AM
Rimmer

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

30-40 seconds per battle is too much time. Should be no more than 20 for a monster that's the same level UNLESS you're going to balance SP appropriately.

I hope they also take downtime into account. It won't be fun if we have to stop every few fights to stand in place for 2 minutes waiting for our HP/MP to recharge.

Thats how it feels for me solo all the time + standard mobs seem to hit incredibly hard, pretty rough to solo grind decently. Definately hope they balance out mobs and the SP they give.

Also im very glad they are considering adding Thief into the game, i couldnt even call this an FF game if it lacks alot of those classic classes in the future, summoner, blue mage, time mage, red mage etc... especially summoner, it just isnt FF without summoner.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Or maybe they'll give us a way to "grind" levels that isn't an actual grind.

I would love that, but im sure alot of people will disagree unfortunately. :(
08-03-2011, 03:33 AM
kukurumei

Wait that feels kinda wrong. A monster your level is decapitated in 20 seconds? Does that mean the monster will decapitate you instead in 20 seconds if you sneeze?

I mean it's all SP in the end, but it feels wrong to dumb it down to that level were genociding is the name of the game.
08-03-2011, 03:36 AM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

(ノ｀m´)ノ ~┻━┻ (/o＼) お父さんやめてー

LMAO!! That's hilarious. "Father stop.."
08-03-2011, 03:36 AM
Eekiki

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Or maybe they'll give us a way to "grind" levels that isn't an actual grind.

This would be ideal. I think people's aversion to this is because no one has been able to do it right, so they'd rather just have a standard grind that they know will work properly.

And here's where we go back to the old "things were so much better before the Enix merger" philosophy, because SquareSoft made a game that did not involve grinding experience points to advance your character (Chrono Cross).
08-03-2011, 03:52 AM
Jinrya-Geki

(ノ｀m´)ノ ~┻━┻ (/o＼) お父さんやめてー

I love this post right here. Accurately portrays the forums here. I want to flip a table in anger! No idea what it says though.
08-03-2011, 03:54 AM
SuzakuCMX

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

(ノ｀m´)ノ ~┻━┻ (/o＼) お父さんやめてー

I love this post right here. Accurately portrays the forums here. I want to flip a table in anger! No idea what it says though.

"Oto-san, yameteeeeeee"

"Father, stoooooooppppp!"
08-03-2011, 03:56 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

"Oto-san, yameteeeeeee"

"Father, stoooooooppppp!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8cTdFqwdwc&feature=related
Table Toss arcade game!!
08-03-2011, 04:41 AM
Tezz_Xivectro

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

That's kind of hard + scanning everything and giving info to wrong people might end up with copyright problems and all that. Last JP interview post with the guy posting info for us got in trouble since he almost posted the whole thing on there... what he did was nice for NA + other region players (+me too lol) but he got bashed by stupid trolls in the JP thread saying he should get reported and get punished etc... was stupid what the trolls were doing but felt sorry for the guy.

That's one major problem in the JP forums... rather than talking about the game FFXIV they get into all these other problems about their real person status, or by revealing their character level, name it's going to give bad rep in the game and would make them quit, leave the game... Really just want to tell those stupid F's to shut the F up and enjoy the game and post your honest responses instead of being scared to post what you feel about this game in these forums without hiding your identity (game char) 2CH famous for bashing people who post journals in Lodestone also, they also used to bash players in HNM linkshells back in FFXI days.

Wow that's retarded, lol. Admittedly, i've never followed 2CH as i've always assumed it was just a clusterf**k of random trolls & such.

It's sad if any JP get butthurt over anything from them, as if they have any kind of respectable authority with relevance to FF14. Agreed, they should just play for the sake of playing & not give a f**k about hateful rumors that might spawn up.
08-03-2011, 04:50 AM
mysterytaru

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

Wow that's retarded, lol. Admittedly, i've never followed 2CH as i've always assumed it was just a clusterf**k of random trolls & such.

It's sad if any JP get butthurt over anything from them, as if they have any kind of respectable authority with relevance to FF14. Agreed, they should just play for the sake of playing & not give a f**k about hateful rumors that might spawn up.

From what I understand, 2ch is what 4chan dreams of becoming.
08-03-2011, 04:51 AM
SuzakuCMX

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Originally Posted by mysterytaru

From what I understand, 2ch is what 4chan dreams of becoming.

Trolling, junior high crap.
08-03-2011, 04:55 AM
mysterytaru

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Trolling, junior high crap.

+1 internet to you, good man.
08-03-2011, 04:56 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Trolling, junior high crap.

LOL Cromatie High, I have the whole manga lol
08-03-2011, 05:00 AM
Zkieve

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Trolling, junior high crap.

+10 internetz !
08-03-2011, 05:01 AM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Trolling, junior high crap.

LOL, that was great. Now I need to watch that entire series.
08-03-2011, 05:03 AM
SuzakuCMX

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

LOL, that was great. Now I need to watch that entire series.

*nasal voice* These guys are so easy to manipulate, yeah.
08-03-2011, 05:42 AM
R-Odin

ヘイスト = Haste
As in Haste spell: http://jp.ffxiah.com/item/ヘイスト
And as in items with Haste: http://jp.ffxiah.com/item/13189/スピドベルト
08-03-2011, 05:50 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by R-Odin

ヘイスト = Haste
As in Haste spell: http://jp.ffxiah.com/item/ヘイスト
And as in items with Haste: http://jp.ffxiah.com/item/13189/スピドベルト

It's fixed

Thanks to all of you... spelling police :)

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