ANOTHER MAINTENANCE TODAY!

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Just because you don't experience the bugs before a maintenance doesn't mean they aren't there. Someone found the bug, someone reported it (oft times not the same someone) and Square fixed it. This is how I hope my monthly fee is being spent, improving the game so that they can move on to future content. I don't mind waiting for said future content if it means the game isn't going to implode at that time.

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The game is not going to implode if they bundle four maintenances a week into just one.

You guys do understand that when someone reports a bug it's not getting fixed the next day right?

1.) The bug is reported
2.) The bug is verified
3.) The bug is then found and fixed
4.) The bug is then tested (might go back to #3 a couple of times even)
5.) They put together a new server build
5.) They deploy the new build to an internal staging server to run their regression suite.

AND then they announce that in two days they will deploy those fixes to the production servers. Most bugs that are found by players are already going to be live on the servers for at least a week before that process can finish. What is a few more days?

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Originally Posted by Baneus

Grinding from 56-60 on Yetis solo because you ran out of quests was good? :(

and since we're being nostalgic and the servers will be up shortly...I give you Baneus, Feb 2005:

EDIT: SERVERS UP, SERVERS UP, SERVERS UP :D

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OMG it's Baneus.

I remember you.

In the mountains.

(I mean GD ♥)

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Originally Posted by whilke

The game is not going to implode if they bundle four maintenances a week into just one.

You guys do understand that when someone reports a bug it's not getting fixed the next day right?

1.) The bug is reported
2.) The bug is verified
3.) The bug is then found and fixed
4.) The bug is then tested (might go back to #3 a couple of times even)
5.) They put together a new server build
5.) They deploy the new build to an internal staging server to run their regression suite.

AND then they announce that in two days they will deploy those fixes to the production servers. Most bugs that are found by players are already going to be live on the servers for at least a week before that process can finish. What is a few more days?

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Depending on the severity and impact if that bug, it can mean the difference between gaming as normal and a rollback. So far Square hasn't had to resort to a rollback but I think the backlash from a rollback would be far greater than what we have now.

How about gathering all the bugs, exploits, hot fixes during the week and pick 1 day out of the week to take the servers down. A day that the entire player base is aware of, a day that we all expect it to be "maintenance day." Unless of course it's a critical bug, then by all means take the servers down. The random, frequent, excessive amount of downtime is ridiculous. No matter when they decide downtime, it's gonna screw someone over. But if we all expected that same 1 day a week is going to to be unavailable, I think it would be more understandable.

*inserting viable solution

Make an "English Forum Maintenance Petition." Tally up a reasonable maintenance start time and ask SE to shift their schedule to accommodate it, regardless of their own data. If this petition idea won't work, suggest a better idea.

Let's see 18 pages of Players finding a suitable solution.

#CryMeARiver

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Originally Posted by Serial_Killer

I dont get why some people get upset when we post about constant maintenance. Do they work for SE or something? The post is clearly titled Maintenance. If you don't like it, don't come in and read.

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Maybe because there are 50 other "ERMAGHERD! MERNTERNERNCE!" threads that could be posted in instead?

Posting in one thread keeps forum clutter down and keeps relevant information all in one spot. Sure, we don't work for SE, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't get upset when people take a big wet dump on the forums every time there's a maintenance, either.

If they had 2 servers . Both mirror images of each other , They could fix one then shut down server , swap to the fixed one and bingo we didn't get any long downtime.

but wait that would be the smart choice.

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Originally Posted by Grailer

If they had 2 servers . Both mirror images of each other , They could fix one then shut down server , swap to the fixed one and bingo we didn't get any long downtime.

but wait that would be the really, really expensive choice.

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Fixed that for you. You do realize they have way more than two servers, don't you?

Thanks to this maintenance I was finally able to get the Boughbury Burning achievement, hurrah!

/off topic

Have you guys heard on the news about the girl who was mauled by two pit bulls?

Dang....

thoughts?

Maintenance allows me to get caught up on my sleep or tv shows.

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Originally Posted by Mythrella

OMG it's Baneus.

I remember you.

In the mountains.

(I mean GD ♥)

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Baneus is everywhere.

Just waiting to see when they're gonna do the other 2 maintenance for this week

8th.





:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by Serial_Killer

8th.

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8th of what month? SE has no maintenance scheduled at this time.

Nov 7: Long Sony PSN maintenance, 8am-3pm PST. Be sure to log in to PSN within the preceding day or so if you want to play during that time. (FF14 worlds will not be down.) (more info from Sony)
Nov 7: 10pm-1am PST. If you need to buy Crysta, you can't during this time. (FF14 worlds will not be down.)
SE's next scheduled maintenance: none scheduled
SE's next emergency maintenance: they don't schedule those things more than a day or so in advance. (technically, "urgent maintenance" not emergent).
Individual game server (within a world) maintenance: as needed. Not announced except by in-game announcement.

Can we please let this thread die, every time i log onto the forums and see this on the first page i think there is another maintenance......

Is this really a discussion?

Pathetic.

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Originally Posted by PandaPause

Oh noes!!!! SE are fixing broken things how dare they.

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thats if they where fixing broken things, still see broken things!

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Originally Posted by gintoki88

thats if they where fixing broken things, still see broken things!

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I did notice how Class Guild quest NPC gives the next quest right away now. So that issue seems to be fixed.
Like before you complete a quest and try to talk to the NPC he won't give you the next quest, you had to wait 1-2 sec, now it's instant. (at least it was for me last night lol)

I knew it. Another maintenance tonight. Fan boys come and defend SE some more.

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Originally Posted by Serial_Killer

I knew it. Another maintenance tonight. Fan boys come and defend SE some more.

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Yeah, because we hate when stuff gets fixed.

Leave it broken so we can complain some more.

In the meantime, we'll complain about it being fixed.

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Originally Posted by Serial_Killer

I knew it. Another maintenance tonight. Fan boys come and defend SE some more.

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Um, because there pretty much always is on Thursday nights?

Really, how naive can a person get- just because emergency maint happened this week does not eliminate the standard scheduled biweekly maint.

Edit: I see that you are referencing the JP maint, ya know, one that doesn't effect NA servers.

RE: We don't care about the status of the data center we aren't on.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Um, because there pretty much always is on Thursday nights?

Really, how naive can a person get- just because emergency maint happened this week does not eliminate the standard scheduled biweekly maint.

Edit: I see that you are referencing the JP maint, ya know, one that doesn't effect NA servers.

RE: We don't care about the status of the data center we aren't on.

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Duuuude - http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...ccea5d957ea98e NA/EU got one also.

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Originally Posted by Tahldon

Yeah, because we hate when stuff gets fixed.

Leave it broken so we can complain some more.

In the meantime, we'll complain about it being fixed.

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they would rather stuff be broken for a long period of time. then they can demand free time/free items from Square

Looks like there will be another maintenance for NA servers. But at least it isn't starting at midnight or 9pm. Not that the time matters to me a whole lot anyway. I usually start getting ready for bed around 1am.

Thursday has been a consistent nightly maintenance pretty much every week since launch. Why are you surprised?

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Originally Posted by Serial_Killer

I knew it. Another maintenance tonight. Fan boys come and defend SE some more.

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You seem to be so upset by these, yet continue to play? Could it be that...you don't actually care about these and just trying to start pointless arguments because you have nothing better to do? Most people would stop using a product that causes them so much distress.

They actually pushed back the timing of it, so it starts later now, and people are still complaining.

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Originally Posted by ufufu

They actually pushed back the timing of it, so it starts later now, and people are still complaining.

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But...But...I can only play FFXIV at 1-3am everyday, SE is clearly targeting me and my play time on purpose!

People are complaining about maintenance from 1am-3am PACIFIC???

How much more 'middle of the night' can you get??

The time is 1am to 3am on the NA servers, not many people are playing. JP servers are done at a non peak time as well.

This isn't even a big deal cause most people are sleep unless you have some weird schedule when you are up at night.

I'm so happy they rotate the maintenance this time... every 2-3 days I was unable to play as it was always 7pm to 10pm, straight after work... but I see they are doing it 10pm tonight (nz time)

good.

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

I'm so happy they rotate the maintenance this time... every 2-3 days I was unable to play as it was always 7pm to 10pm, straight after work... but I see they are doing it 10pm tonight (nz time)

good.

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They didn't rotate it, they usually had it around 9pm-1am time frames after people complained about them doing it when most people are in work/school or JUST getting off.

I say do all the maintenance they need to do. They wouldn't take the servers down for a few hours just to irritate people. There is always a reason, and we don't always have to know what the reason is. If the servers have to be taken down for 24 hours or more, I'll be concerned, but not mad.

I literally have no social life outside this game and work, yet I can still find plenty to keep busy while my chosen world is down. Believe me, if I can do that, anyone can :)

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

They didn't rotate it, they usually had it around 9pm-1am time frames after people complained about them doing it when most people are in work/school or JUST getting off.

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Yes they did.

Emergency Maintenance was literally always 6 or 7 NZ time, after converting the currently scheduled maintenance it's falling on 10pm NZ time.. so they pushed it forward 1-2 hours and day light savings is also scoring me an extra hour too.

So is there two maintenances scheduled for tomorrow? The last maintenance listed doesn't have an am or pm so unsure when it'll be. I don't mind the ones that go 1-3/4am PST even though it's my prime time to play, it's on the latter half of that play time.

Those people who are complaining have a legit reason to be complaining. Square-enix should have gotten whatever "emergencies" cleared up within those last 4 maintenances last week. Square-Enix owes people at least a couple of days for their inconvenience. Telling us that they apologize and thanking us for understanding isn't going to cut it.

Haha! I see this thread resurrected again and it's because people are *happy* that the maintenance is in the middle of the NA night and after NZ prime time.

Let me go tell the "Where's the nice FFXI community" thread that the sane people have returned. :)

Just for fun ... I made a spreadsheet!

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ic7d48.png

The above doesn't include maintenances or down times that only affected one or a few servers.

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

Just for fun ... I made a spreadsheet!

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ic7d48.png

The above doesn't include maintenances or down times that only affected one or a few servers.

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Hmmm

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