Please Stop Crying About Personal Gil Insufficiency Issues.

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Originally Posted by Ruprect

One thing you forget OP is that if everybody crafted there would be no one to buy your wares and the market would be so swamped with crafting/crafted items nothing would sell for more than a gil.

The other thing is that you do not understand that it is not the lack of personal wealth but the lack of way to make gil on the server as a whole. Once everybody finishes their story and gets their 200-250k gil that is it, there is no way to make more gil to put into the economy. And numerous gil sinks to remove gil from the game. At some point there will be no gil left to trade as it has all gone back into the vendors via repairs/market fee's/ etc. IMO repairs cost far to much for how hard it is to make gil in game and it will cause a huge collapse at some point.

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I have made 2 posts on ways to generate gil all it takes is a lil work

@ OP When you need to spend that entire amount you saved for 2 just items on the black market and you have exhausted all quests you will be in the same boat as the rest of us. The game set up is encouraging all of us to race level our classes just to get what we need rather then contend with market prices. How is that sustainable for the future? Every man and his dog is going to have leveled up all his classes to make ends meet and what are they going to do? Move on...

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Originally Posted by JPPILIP

I have made 2 posts on ways to generate gil all it takes is a lil work

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Lol so your solution is to DoH stuff to sell to NPC's lol. Does that make sense to you? I have no problem with work and no problem with gil, but I forsee a huge problem coming with no other way to make gil vendoring gathered items. There should be numerous ways in game to make gil. Not everyone is going to craft/gather. That being the case there will not be enough gil coming in for the amount going out. You are so confused by this, why?

Have people complaining about gil ever played another MMO? Correct me if I'm wrong but World Of Warcraft's AH removes Gold from the game. World Of Warcraft has Gear repairs. About the only thing I Can think of WOW has for Gold income FFXIV is missing is profitable dailies.

Money has to be taken out of the game to keep the economy healthy. Otherwise it will just inflate till everyone is rich and the rest are wealthy. A commedian once said "Rich is something you can loose on a vacation to cancoon overnight, Wealth is something that get's passed down for generations" so you get the difference.

However, I will admit that gear repair costs are too high. Secondly I will admit that the games Dol and Doh design is bad. You should not have to change out of your main class to craft or gather. We can't craft in dungeons (no cooking/fishing etc), and we can't switch to do repairs. All though we don't really need to switch to do repairs in a dungeon because I never break in a dungeon by repairing before I que.

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Originally Posted by JPPILIP

All the people complaining just wanna run dungeons all day and QQ cus they have no money there are ways to make money in this game best example is what I use.
Iron ore mine 100 20 min elm lumber 100 20 min makes 50 iron saws sells for 70 gil 50 x 70=3500 gil to npc vendors and this is done by just having 3 DoH Dol classes at lvl 15 now imagine those same 3 classes at lvl 50.

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No offense to you... but you make playing a game sound like... a job.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Have people complaining about gil ever played another MMO? Correct me if I'm wrong but World Of Warcraft's AH removes Gold from the game. World Of Warcraft has Gear repairs. About the only thing I Can think of WOW has for Gold income FFXIV is missing is profitable dailies.

Money has to be taken out of the game to keep the economy healthy. Otherwise it will just inflate till everyone is rich and the rest are wealthy. A commedian once said "Rich is something you can loose on a vacation to cancoon overnight, Wealth is something that get's passed down for generations" so you get the difference.

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WoW and most MMO also give more than 1 gil (or equivalent) on killed mobs. There is no need for a lot of changes, just some light modifications:
- more gils on killed mobs
- or chances for allagan coins on killed mobs
- or allagan coins in chest are given to all members of the party, not only one

Either of these solutions would probably be enough, and at the same time, it would solve the Amdapor Keep speed run "problem".

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-game-economy

It really is crying about personal insolvency, not an underlying problem with the game itself. There is no evidence to back up reports that there are problems with the economy...

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Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-game-economy

It really is crying about personal insolvency, not an underlying problem with the game itself. There is no evidence to back up reports that there are problems with the economy...

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A link to your own thread that only 1 person has bothered to post in. Is that your evidence?

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Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-game-economy

It really is crying about personal insolvency, not an underlying problem with the game itself. There is no evidence to back up reports that there are problems with the economy...

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lol at another level 30 come to bump its own ignorant post. I'm not near level 50 and it is obvious that lack of gil is a huge problem. It was a huge problem back when vanilla wow launched as well, get your head out of the sand.

people generate money all the time with all the accessible leve rewards and countless players producing money from quests and allagan peices. The economy is fine, even so, since when is everyone all of a sudden on board of trying to make the game more community based? just because you don't like it doesn't mean its bad. i just so happen to enjoy the fact that once im level 50, i gotta work hard to keep up with the bills, because this way it will give me the mindset of having to only play with good players, and that good ole' missed ff11 mentality of never wanting to die and play at my A-game. Take this as a good feature of the game because just about everything else in this game holds your hand harder then an over protective mother in a mall.

stop whining and enjoy the game, of course everyone just wants an excuse to call someone ignorant and stupid because thats just the way how this generation we live in works. But the only truth of the matter is, is that we are all impatient and lazy.just get off your butt and farm gil. Just because your lazy shouldn't have to ruin it for everyone else.

Another thing.... IF REPAIR BILLS ARE TOO EXPENSIVE THEN MAKE SOME DANG FRIENDS IN THIS "COMMUNITY" THAT CAN REPAIR THE GEAR FOR YOU! ITS MUCHO CHEAPO! GATHER THE DARK MATTERS YOURSELF!