The attitude certain tanks have....

All I ever asked for was don't pull for me. That's my job. =/ Otherwise do whatever the heck you want- put me on autofollow, try to beat my threat just for the lulz, autoattack for the entire time...

But I've given up on the Holy Trinity. Just thought i'd pop in here and make sure tanks are still the most hatred/loved spec. :D

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I would appreciate it if DDs focused on my marks and if everyone didn't run away if they accidently pull something. Running does nothing but lead the monster out of my range. Stay close enough that I can shield lob/provoke it back please.

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Hahaha noob tank :p j/k j/k I agree with you, would be better if you can just stay close to the tanks and we'll try out best to try and get the hate from that mob.
Damn you're on Sarga too... need to look for you in-game lol

I try to explain stuff in my party for the dungeons I learned/know the strategy for, only problem I got is damn auto-translate doesn't work for me... I'm playing on JP language settings on NA/EU server. So far it's fun tanking though, got different types of DD out there, wife is playing Healer so we always discuss what to do to try and get the party going if they are new to XIV/MMO, but like you sometimes I wish they can look at that big # mark on top of the mobs name and attack the same mob we're fighting lol.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I would appreciate it if DDs focused on my marks and if everyone didn't run away if they accidently pull something. Running does nothing but lead the monster out of my range. Stay close enough that I can shield lob/provoke it back please.

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+1 For using DDs

Frankly it's the groups attitude that needs to change.

When I insist that all the loot should belong to Norb, they scoff. I'm the biggest and strongest, of course I should be the one to carry everything. You think those tiny Lalafellian arms can hold even a fraction of what I can and still keep up a good pace? Yet every time, without fail, the group wants to "roll" and split the loot up "evenly." It's selfish I tell you.

Oh, and you let the healer die ONE time because your hot pocket was done during a pull and you go afk to get it and they'll never let you hear the end of it. Makes me not want to even PUG anymore.

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Originally Posted by Tokochan

I hate running into tanks with an over inflated ego... I had one that refused to pull off me (the healer) because he said I shouldn't be pulling threat anyway... -_-

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If I was a leader and saw that, I would have sooo wanted to booted him from the party... -_-

I laughed at what Norb said, but it is the group that needs to change.

Like it or not, the tank is the leader. Even if he doesn't know the instance, he's still the leader. He might need directions but he still decides when and how to pull. If you want to be the leader, roll a tank. :)

On the remarks about marking ur targets I have personably found that unless ur a new player to mmo's it can kinda cause some issues with DD's trying to do there job with crowd control and dps damage on targets. Ask before a dungeon starts and if everyone has experience in mmo's then don't bother with marking the targets. Healers and dps players should know who to hit and who not to buy switching there targets after they deal crowd controls on mobs the tank has pulled. If u change targets till ur on the one loosing hp then u are on ten same target to attack as the tank. (If you are in a proper party that is). If you cants attack the right targets without the marks then they should ask for marks and if u feel like running when I aggro something I won't waste my healing skill to save u while I'm doing dps. That right is reserved only if healer is having some issues with healing enough on tank or on daps and healer who do their jobs correctly.

I've had issues with every job, you have Tanks who lose their minds when things don't go their way, DD's to just stand there and take abuse rather then move around and avoid attacks. Healers who only focus on curing with no Esuna or anything, it goes on and on. The common theme I've seen so far, if people are willing to talk with a plan in mind, you win 99% of the time. The minute ANYONE gets upset, it's over.

lol tanks can't do anything right!

Just a quick note, but Cutter's Cry is more of a healer's test than any other dungeon I've done so far. If you're on the ball on Leeches/Esuna, things will go smoothly. The tank can easily tell if the healer is just mass-cure'ing instead of getting rid of the nasty DoTs and debuffs (Sandworm's Cyclone, Chimera's Ram Voice, Chimera's Dragon Voice's Paralysis, Chimera's Heavy, Slime's Poisons...)

So if the tank rage quits after a few wipes, perhaps you can investigate the reason behind the wipes to begin with. And that comes from a main healer -- we have to admit we can be as much at fault as the tank or the DPS can be.

Perhaps the healer was on his game, and the tank was just in the wrong. But perhaps he also ran this dungeon multiple times, and having access to instant queue, figured his time was better spent simply queuing again and hope for a better healer rather than teaching this one how to handle things.