Bye Bye, Speed Runs. /dance

So glad to hear about speedruns is going away.
Every time I was invited to any dungeons, it was always speedruns. And I find it way more fun when the whole group can breathe sometimes, strategize before rushing for next boss constantly and never ever do a mistake.

GO YOSHIDA ^^

SE please make a 'pause' button for all contents. i need a rest for all primal fight too.

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Originally Posted by Altera

So glad to hear about speedruns is going away.
Every time I was invited to any dungeons, it was always speedruns. And I find it way more fun when the whole group can breathe sometimes, strategize before rushing for next boss constantly and never ever do a mistake.

GO YOSHIDA ^^

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shhh, the better players might hear you and lable you as "not good enough" god forbid we actually ENJOY the content. Sure keep the achivements , it is noteable to say, "hey I just ran CC in 17 minutes" but beyond that, whats the point? make someones e-peen larger? Newsflash, a few updates from now , when we have more , better, gear options, that acomplishment is going to become a cake walk, just like every other content in the game. So save the elitest BS banter. Grats on the speed runs but supporting your alter ego is not justification for keeping speed runs as a way to set dificulty, there is no skill in oping gear and spaming an event till you have memorized every nuk and cranny of the dungeon. Learn how to keep hate without "300 enmity" as a party and down a mob harder then your used to, thats skill.

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

shhh, the better players might hear you and lable you as "not good enough" god forbid we actually ENJOY the content. Sure keep the achivements , it is noteable to say, "hey I just ran CC in 17 minutes" but beyond that, whats the point? make someones e-peen larger? Newsflash, a few updates from now , when we have more , better, gear options, that acomplishment is going to become a cake walk, just like every other content in the game. So save the elitest BS banter. Grats on the speed runs but supporting your alter ego is not justification for keeping speed runs as a way to set dificulty, there is no skill in oping gear and spaming an event till you have memorized every nuk and cranny of the dungeon. Learn how to keep hate without "300 enmity" as a party and down a mob harder then your used to, thats skill.

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I have nothing against doing a speedrun to get the achievements etc. But my main interest is to have fun with the party/friends I am with. Theres no time to enjoy their company when its just a mad dash to the finishline. :)

I used to raid heroic 25mans in WOW for 4 years. I gave up WOW after defeating Heroic Ragnaros before the nerf And I actually got tired of it in the end. Always going for BiS items, gemming the same stats constantly.


And hello fellow Sargatanian ^^

I'm very happy to read this too! And don't forget about the relic weapons quest items at the dungeons. ^^

I was fairly anti-speed run until I actually did one.
It felt like (for our group) the culmination of all the work that had gone into being able to do Aurum Vale without thinking. We run with Teamspeak on anyway, but it was barely required for the run. Just the odd "you're a bit too close to Coincounter", etc, BLMs warning they don't want a cure because they're using Burst after Convert, things like that.

I wouldn't like to see them removed from ARR, though tying loot tables to time left on the clock is pretty shabby. A hard mode or route through the dungeon seems like a better implementation to me. Better yet, steady token rewards so people can buy their shineys.

I enjoyed speed runs but I'm not sad to see them go. I'll still be able to have my fun and push myself to optimal speeds in the new dungeons Yoshi has planned. In particular, I'm most excited to see what is in store for us mainly because it will be fresh and different. I hope these dungeons/raids are truly an original experience.

I am happy that they are removing the necessity to do a speed run. They should not be mandatory or the only way to achieve a goal.

Of course everyone should be allowed to do a speed run if they wish, for their own enjoyment, time saving, or personal challenge (can we do it quicker?! YES we can!). But it should not be a requirement to achieve a reward.

For me this is good, and makes the game more accessible and fun (we get both options, slow or fast, to succeed!)

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Originally Posted by morpheus

Exactly!! All speed runs did was add some form of challenge to content and give people something else to work towards. 90% of the people who whined about speeds just whined cause they weren't good enough to to do them or in an ls that wasn't good enough to do them. Flame away but it's true.

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Huh, challenge? Yeah, I may understand that doing a “Time Trial” could pose a challenge for certain adventurers. Sure, do it once, twice, 10 times... but, c'mon, after doing it hundred times, same Jobs and same strategy, don't tell me it's still enjoyable.
This is what the Speed Runs are.

And about the “not being good enough to do them”... Well, personally speaking I would have surely tried... if I could. My Job of Monk is automatically left out of the Speed Runs, it's simply not fast enough.
But I'm sure that even if I could participate in this “content”, being an adventurer who likes to do things with no hurry, and considering it required to be spammed, I wouldn't have liked it one bit.

[By the way, this trend of spamming contents should just go as well. Hamlet Defense is another example of wasted content with a good potential... but OK, that's another matter.]

I'd consider the dungeons challenging if they're actually hard to get through, places where you can go in as your favourite Job. Strong monsters, different routes... I could stay here and list all the improvements they could introduce, but with Yoshida's promises I've faith that this time they won't disappoint.

What I don't like about speed runs is that the minute someone messes up the whole run becomes a waste of time. :( I'm happy that this "feature" is getting the boot! ^o^